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Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by timr »

DigitalSea wrote: post #30

The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

I simply don't understand the appeal of the thing. To a person, everyone who raves about it says, essentially "just like Sublime Text, but in Javascript!", and yeah, that seems right. Just like Sublime Text, but in Javascript...and plagued with the performance problems you'd expect from Sublime Text, written in JavaScript. There's not really a killer feature that makes me want to switch from the editor I use already.

I must be getting old, because "...but in JavaScript!" is not a selling point to me. I don't care what language my editor is written in, except that I'd prefer it to be written in whatever language allows the developers to implement its features in a performant and scalable fashion.

(I really love the downvotes for disagreement. Perhaps, if you like the thing so much, you could explain why, instead of just trying to silence people?)

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by hacker_9 »

rodgerd wrote: post #47
vbit wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you highlight some of the reasons you liked it?

* Cross-platform with a pleasing (to me) GUI. Specifically, I appreciate the ability to have multiple views including rendered previews of particular files. * "Feels right". The ergonomics of the keyboard interaction Just Work for me. * Excellent git integration (with plugins) which is frankly abnormal on editors that run on Windows as well as ix (or Windows at all - the git story on Windows is still pretty crappy).…

Visual Studio has Git support built in...

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by babo »

pugio wrote: post #54

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why: Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no…

Have you tried atom with default plugins only?

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by mikerichards »

Despite Atom's shortcomings that everybody knows about, I really like it and use it frequently. It has a huge number of high quality plugins (and some not so high).

That said, eventually I see myself moving to vscode. Text editors are meant to be opened and closed frequently, unlike an IDE. So I typically will have atom opened for various tasks, but will use vscode to "check out" a file. vscode is also written in typescript and something that I'm very interested in. I'd probably move to vscode for a bunch more tasks if it had a decent vim plugin.

In some kind of ideal world, vscode could use atom plugins, but I know that's probably a recipe for disaster with huge instability issues.

I'd really love for Atom and VSCode to actually come together one day in the not too distant future. I think it makes sense to pool resources in the "Electron editor app" ecosystem.

But congratulations to the Atom team, nonetheless. When things work, it's a very pleasant experience....especially considering the technical roots it comes from.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by mikerichards »

rodgerd wrote: post #10

I have been ignoring the Atom hype because "geeze a programmers editor written as a big blob of JavaScript on my desktop that sounds like a dumb idea". Then I tried it and it's wonderful and magical.

Yep...when I first heard about Atom I felt the exact same way you did...."a chromium (web) based desktop app written in CoffeeScript/Javascript...what a freaking mess".

Then I tried it and was pretty much blown away on how nice it really is.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by girvo »

DigitalSea wrote: post #30

The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

> extremely slow and laden with performance issues

I've honestly not experienced this at all; though I'm running Atom/Nuclide with only the Babel language plugin extra.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by mikerichards »

hacker_9 wrote: post #16
wyager wrote: post #3

I don't really want more features for Atom. I just want it to be faster. Right now it's incredibly sluggish compared to e.g. Sublime. Is there any hope on this front, or are the performance issues intrinsic?

I see this comment every time an Atom post gets on HN. Are you sure it's not just your computer specs? If Atom continually makes the HN front page then many people must be using it just fine and like it? Personally I'm not sure why we need another text editor of all things, but hey its made in javascript which is hip at the moment.

Like others, I have beefy machines and it's still somewhat sluggish. It doesn't bother me as much as others, but I still finding myself typing vscode "blah" instead of atom "blah" for simple file edits that will be opened, saved or looked at, and then closed.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by 13years »

mrcwinn wrote: post #59
hacker_9 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing as quite a few people here are complaining about the performance of Atom, I thought I'd give it a try see if there's anything to it. Cloned the 'Phaser' javascript game engine repo off GitHub and went through a few files (each with 500-1000 LOC), did some editing and... didn't have a single problem with performance. I can only imagine that you and the other complainers are running older computers that can't ke…

Nope, completely wrong. I have a 32GB i7-4790K at around 4Ghz or so, and Atom is a complete dog. The painful truth is that a webview is never going to beat a native app at this kind of task. It's not a vocal minority. Atom is painful to use compared to, say, Sublime.

I suspect that both are right. Some people are having issues and others are not. I don't seem to have any lag at all when typing even with multi megabyte size files. Maybe you could give some more details into exactly what actions were slow for you and what types of files you were editing.

Actually, thanks to innovations in Mozilla's servo, the web may actually become faster than native.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by girvo »

izacus wrote: post #18
hacker_9 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this comment every time an Atom post gets on HN. Are you sure it's not just your computer specs? If Atom continually makes the HN front page then many people must be using it just fine and like it? Personally I'm not sure why we need another text editor of all things, but hey its made in javascript which is hip at the moment.

A quad core, 16GB RAM rMBP with SSD should really be able to run a text editor for a 500 line Python file without caret lagging behind typing :/ Sublime can do it easily, Atom still can't. Am I holding it wrong?

My Atom on a 8Gb rMBP with an SSD handles it perfectly fine...

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by [deleted] »

hacker_9 wrote: post #55
DigitalSea wrote: post #30

The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

Seeing as quite a few people here are complaining about the performance of Atom, I thought I'd give it a try see if there's anything to it. Cloned the 'Phaser' javascript game engine repo off GitHub and went through a few files (each with 500-1000 LOC), did some editing and... didn't have a single problem with performance. I can only imagine that you and the other complainers are running older computers that can't ke…

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