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Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by cname »

bronson wrote: post #49
segphault wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a longtime Vim user, I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of Atom's Vim bindings. Text navigation and pane management bindings mostly work as expected. You get multiple registers for yanking etc. That's the extent of what you get, however. There's no emulation for the colon prompt, no macros, and it obviously doesn't support any Vim scripting. I've been happy with Atom after transitioning from Vim, but…

If vim-mode doesn't go quite far enough, make sure to try vim-mode-plus. Adreed, I miss %s pretty much every day. Also tabular.vim -- tried a few but haven't found an Atom equivalent yet.

I just did %s/a/b and it worked. I think you need to install the ex-mode plugin.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by seanp2k2 »

grinich wrote: post #34
rodgerd wrote: post #10

I have been ignoring the Atom hype because "geeze a programmers editor written as a big blob of JavaScript on my desktop that sounds like a dumb idea". Then I tried it and it's wonderful and magical.

We actually forked Atom and built an email app. It's worked surprisingly well!

I'm not sure if you're serious or not. If you are serious, I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in why and how it turned out :)

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#53

Post by ropiku »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #52
grinich wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We actually forked Atom and built an email app. It's worked surprisingly well!

I'm not sure if you're serious or not. If you are serious, I'm sure I'm not the only one interested in why and how it turned out :)

He's serious, it's https://nylas.com/n1. See https://www.nylas.com/blog/splitting-the-atom (i'm not associated with them)

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#54

Post by pugio »

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why:

Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no longer coincide, and that slight, almost subliminal perception of delay build into a sense of frustration and just being out of sync with my program.

It's a problem that's most noticeable in its absence. Like when you go to the gym for the first time in a while and realize "oh, yeah, this feeling is what I've been missing", switching from Atom back to Sublime feels... right, refreshing.

For a great analysis of typing latency, and why it's important, see: https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/

(I am happy Atom is still moving forwards, though, and eagerly await the day I can switch fully from Sublime. Easy modification of ones own tools is another big component of my personal programmer-as-craftsman ideal.)

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by hacker_9 »

DigitalSea wrote: post #30

The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

Seeing as quite a few people here are complaining about the performance of Atom, I thought I'd give it a try see if there's anything to it. Cloned the 'Phaser' javascript game engine repo off GitHub and went through a few files (each with 500-1000 LOC), did some editing and... didn't have a single problem with performance.

I can only imagine that you and the other complainers are running older computers that can't keep up, or you've got a load of other programs running and your PC is having to use virtual memory. I thought it strange that Atom wouldn't focus on performance if it were such a problem as is being made out, but it seems that this is just the case for the vocal minority once again.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

#57

Post by noir_lord »

pugio wrote: post #54

I love the concept of Atom and have a lot invested in its success. That being said, I switched back to Sublime because of the responsiveness, and here's why: Programming (for me) is a craft. When I'm in the flow of coding, there's a conversation between me and my program, mediated through the editor (and my REPL). Even a subtle typing lag is enough to subtly disrupt that flow state – the speed of thought and text no…

> It's a problem that's most noticeable in its absence.

I know what you mean, when they added the option for Zero-Latency typing in intellij it subtly just felt better (and on linux the difference was noticable).

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by seanp2k2 »

jwcooper wrote: post #36
segphault wrote: post #28

I really wish there was a way to use Atom in client/server mode. I'd like to leave a headless session running on my home Linux server and be able to attach to it from work. Right now, I use SSHFS to mount the remote directory so I can edit locally, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Considering that Atom is all just Node and Chromium under the hood, it's surprising that there's no way to run at is as a server.

Check out nuclide.io. It's built on top of atom by Facebook. I haven't tried it, but one of its features is remote development using client/server.

Unless I'm misreading, parent is talking about something like X11 where the heavy lifting happens on the "server" side and the client is more of an interactive viewer. Nuclide is cool but it looks like the client / server stuff is for doing live development where the code lives on e.g. A web server. This is a thing in other IDEs too (such as IntelliJ), and it's a useful feature, but it doesn't get the main workload off the "client": http://nuclide.io/docs/features/remote/

Edit: Actually, running atom over X11 could work if you have some beefy remote machine / AWS workspace. You could even use Nuclide's remote capability above to connect back to your laptop to edit local code, remotely, using a local client and running atom on the X11 server. Not that this is sensible or not ridiculous, but if you really need that c4.8xl to run your text editor, it's possible.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by mrcwinn »

hacker_9 wrote: post #55
DigitalSea wrote: post #30

The new features and updates are great, but the one thing holding me back from using it is the fact it is extremely slow and laden with performance issues. Anyone who has ever attempted to open a file with a lot of lines of code will attest to the fact that Atom has issues. Ironically, Microsoft's open source Visual Studio Code editor is based in part of some aspects of Atom and it has exceptional performance and is…

Seeing as quite a few people here are complaining about the performance of Atom, I thought I'd give it a try see if there's anything to it. Cloned the 'Phaser' javascript game engine repo off GitHub and went through a few files (each with 500-1000 LOC), did some editing and... didn't have a single problem with performance. I can only imagine that you and the other complainers are running older computers that can't ke…

Nope, completely wrong. I have a 32GB i7-4790K at around 4Ghz or so, and Atom is a complete dog. The painful truth is that a webview is never going to beat a native app at this kind of task.

It's not a vocal minority. Atom is painful to use compared to, say, Sublime.

Re: Atom 1.6 Released with Pending Pane Items, Async Git and Top and Bottom Bar API

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Post by lotsoflumens »

I use Atom (the beta channel) every day - it has become my favorite editor because of all the nice support for different languages.

It could be a bit faster, but I'm confident that it will get better.

I also made the mistake of opening a large data file (100 MB) with it one day. I won't try that again :-)

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