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Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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An interesting and not very encouraging video review by Tech Moan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VvTzmp08OE I'd rather buy the batteryless (non-Ring) one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9CpalDdd04

That's a really thorough review he did in that YouTube video. Quite interesting.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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Looks a lot like this $58 item on Alibaba.[1] Is Ring just a reseller with an app?

There are remote controllable door locks. This doesn't interface with them. Nor does it talk to the home security system. The home IoT guys need to get more organized about this.

[1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Outdoor-battery-operat...

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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post #15

If you're at home, does this go up to the cloud and then round-trip to your phone, or does the video stay on your local wifi? There's a part of me that cynically wants to just guess that it does always go up to the cloud, but it's also silly (read "expensive") to ship video up to the cloud just to potentially ship it right back down to the very same wifi network, so maybe not. (Of course I assume the cloud does proxy…

It goes to the cloud, but only to stream the video once it's already been stored.

When the unit senses motion, it starts recording video, then uploads it to your cloud, where you have to wait a short bit before its processed before you can view the video if you didnt answer the ring.

If you answer the ring, the camera is still streaming the video to their cloud which is in turn streamed down to your phone via the app.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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post #3

I like this a lot because of its inconspicuous design. Are there any other security cameras that aren't bulky? You can get an iphone 6s camera replacement for around $40, it seems like the quality is far superior to the current consumer security cameras on the market - so why are ring and nest the only options?

I've had the same wish, but AFAIK cell phone cameras use proprietary interfaces and are not very useful on their own. They require a GPU and chipset. You'd have to include nearly the entire phone to make use of an iPhone 6s camera.

Most cell phones actually use off the shelf sensors and interfaces. It's an easy way to allow differentiation -- have the same mainboard, but different screen sizes, cameras, etc for different lines. I can't find info on the 6s exactly, but previous lines used standard Omnivision imaging chips that spoke over the same CSI-2 interface used by everyone else, and found even on boards like the raspberry pi.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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post #15

If you're at home, does this go up to the cloud and then round-trip to your phone, or does the video stay on your local wifi? There's a part of me that cynically wants to just guess that it does always go up to the cloud, but it's also silly (read "expensive") to ship video up to the cloud just to potentially ship it right back down to the very same wifi network, so maybe not. (Of course I assume the cloud does proxy…

It goes up to the cloud and then back down to you.

All this cloud nonsense... One day someone will come up with an appliance type device that one can keep at home to act as the personal cloud environment. One day...

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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post #12

What is the deal with a battery powered video doorbell? Is there really a powerful enough battery to make it work for a useful amount of time? Are people really willing to charge or replace the batteries as often as is required (likely every few days or a week at the very least, by my back-of-the-envelope calculation)?

It's rechargeable via USB. That said, the one my parents got seems to only last a week or two. After calling Ring, they said it might have something to do with the cold climate. Still not very impressive.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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post #22

Looks a lot like this $58 item on Alibaba.[1] Is Ring just a reseller with an app? There are remote controllable door locks. This doesn't interface with them. Nor does it talk to the home security system. The home IoT guys need to get more organized about this. [1] http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Outdoor-battery-operat...

It doesn't look like it. The model you linked is just a camera, not a camera and doorbell. I also totally agree with you on there needing to be much much much more standardization on IoT stuff. Right now, everyone's separated into their own fiefdoms.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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Preordered the Doorbot, the first gen Ring doorbell, it was very buggy and unreliable, I would get maybe 1 of 10 rings on my phone. The second gen unit has been very reliable, and the video quality is night and day better than first gen. Although there can be a little lag of about 10 seconds or so from when the doorbell is rang till it rings on my phone.

My parents got one of these a few months ago. It's been very unreliable to the point where they decided to put back their old doorbell just to make sure they know when someone comes to the door. Been on the phone with tech support multiple times and they haven't really been able to help.

Re: Ring has now raised $100M for video doorbells

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the same wish, but AFAIK cell phone cameras use proprietary interfaces and are not very useful on their own. They require a GPU and chipset. You'd have to include nearly the entire phone to make use of an iPhone 6s camera.

Most cell phones actually use off the shelf sensors and interfaces. It's an easy way to allow differentiation -- have the same mainboard, but different screen sizes, cameras, etc for different lines. I can't find info on the 6s exactly, but previous lines used standard Omnivision imaging chips that spoke over the same CSI-2 interface used by everyone else, and found even on boards like the raspberry pi.

Do you know of anyone who's successfully used an iPhone camera in a hobby project? I looked around a bit and wasn't able to find anything. Here's someone with some older camera modules...[0] Didn't sound too hopeful. I'm not an expert on the subject though, you may be right.

https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/22963/using-...

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