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New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
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Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#52Join the extensive conversation at http://bit.ly/21vrZo1 to add more power to our dislike of the new UI. A huge number of rejecting comments may be the only way Adobe will listen to us.
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#53Anyone still using a product made by Adobe, in 2016, is cruisin' for a bruisin'. If you're on a Mac: 1. Affinity Photo replaces Photoshop. 2. Affinity Designer replaces Illustrator / Fireworks. Anyone have suggestions for Windows users?
Affinity Photo doesn't replace Photoshop. Also, there are quite a few more Adobe applications than just Photoshop, Illustrator, and Fireworks.
> Affinity Photo doesn't replace Photoshop.
You're right. Photoshop doesn't even compare.
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/02/12/hands-on-affinity-phot...
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/18/hands-on-affinity-photo-is-t...
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/photography-video-capture/c...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU5XpjqtDnw
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/05/review_serif_affinit...
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/photography-video-capture/c...
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/software/graphics...
> Also, there are quite a few more Adobe applications than just Photoshop, Illustrator, and Fireworks.
Since this post is about Photoshop, is that comment even remotely relevant?
Illustrator and Fireworks are relevant, since most designers have used them as well as Photoshop, while photographers will more likely have just used Photoshop.
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know, I can't think of a single thing I like better about a previous version of Windows than Windows 10 (maybe a start menu that's slightly more streamlined).
Just yesterday I got the question "Why can't we just use Windows XP" and we're just moving users from Windows Server 2003 to 2008 (Windows Terminal Server). The changes are minimal, yet it's enough to disturb people. True, given time and education they might like newer versions of Windows better, but let's face it, most companies won't do retraining for Windows and Office.
That's a problem with the companies, not with the software. It's the same with home users. People expect the interface to not change, likely because computers are still new for a lot of people and they can remember a time without them.
I think cars make for a good analogy here. People get a new car, and they have to relearn some things. Not the large things, like how to drive, or the rules of the road, but where the auxiliary controls are, the quirks in how it drives, how sensitive the steering is, where cruise control is and how it's activated, etc. There's a short acclimatization period while you get comfortable and explore or research how to do the things that are different that are important to you.
You get a new version of windows, you may need to learn a few slightly different ways of accomplishing something, but the core experience is the same. You have icons, windows, files with copy/move//delete operations, etc. There's a short acclimatization period while you get comfortable or research how to do the things that are different that are important to you.
Do people complain as much about new cars? Not nearly. They've come to see that these changes are a small price to pay for the advantages we get as the state of the art advances (anti-lock brakes, air-bags, heated seats, parking assist, computer driving...).
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#55I understand why people are upset — but let's not pretend that Adobe's interfaces have ever been able to pass any usability tests.
I disagree the new ui looks bad, and I disagree Adobe's ui is not important. Even with years of PS under my belt I can't make the transition to Gimp simply because everything is in the wrong place, and I've tried many times. Part of Photoshops success has been the great layout of its tools.
That's not true at all! Photoshop's UI is awful — their strategy is essentially "space shuttle cockpit." A bunch of mono-colored tools with anachronistic icons (ask anyone under 20 what the burn tool icon means — or even what burning is as a photography concept), tools under other tools, options hidden in drawers, incredibly tiny mouse targets. I'd wager that 90% of daily users touch about 40% of the interface they show by default.
You've just been flying for so long that you can't imagine it being any other way (and you say so yourself).
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#56I understand why people are upset — but let's not pretend that Adobe's interfaces have ever been able to pass any usability tests.
I think the issue is not a good UI going bad . Rather, it's a familiar UI going unfamiliar . I can use Ps with my eyes closed, and it's software aimed for professional usage. Changing the UI means I'm losing hours and hours of conditioning myself to its quirks, as well as familiarity with the software. Even if the new UI is better , you'd have to weight how much better it is.
That's questionable though — there are a lot of people switching over to Sketch who were previously in Photoshop, and while Photoshop may have never been the right tool for interface design work... plenty of Photoshop users were willing to try something new.
You're right though, it's all a matter of weighing whether or not it's worth it. I wonder what Adobe's methodology for the change was.
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Affinity Photo doesn't replace Photoshop. Also, there are quite a few more Adobe applications than just Photoshop, Illustrator, and Fireworks.
> Affinity Photo doesn't replace Photoshop. You're right. Photoshop doesn't even compare. http://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/02/12/hands-on-affinity-phot... http://petapixel.com/2015/06/18/hands-on-affinity-photo-is-t... http://www.techradar.com/us/news/photography-video-capture/c... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU5XpjqtDnw http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/05/review_serif_affinit... http://www.techradar.com/us/ne…
Oh wow. That intro video is awesome: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/
Too bad im on windows. :-(
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just yesterday I got the question "Why can't we just use Windows XP" and we're just moving users from Windows Server 2003 to 2008 (Windows Terminal Server). The changes are minimal, yet it's enough to disturb people. True, given time and education they might like newer versions of Windows better, but let's face it, most companies won't do retraining for Windows and Office.
That's a problem with the companies, not with the software. It's the same with home users. People expect the interface to not change, likely because computers are still new for a lot of people and they can remember a time without them. I think cars make for a good analogy here. People get a new car, and they have to relearn some things. Not the large things, like how to drive, or the rules of the road, but where the…
It took roughly 40 years for cars to work out what equipment would be standard and where it would go.
I'm reading Robert J. Gordon's The Rise and Fall of American Growth, which looks at trends and patterns over the period since the Civil War (1870), most especially what he terms "the special century" (1870-1970), and also examined as three periods, 1870 - 1920, 1920 - 1970, and 1970 - present (almost even 50 year intervals).
I've just read his chapter on cars, and what equipment wasn't on the original Ford Model T: speedometer, fuel guage, headlights, a top, bumpers, electric starter (let alone automatic choke, spark adjustment, or transmission), etc. They weren't really fully settled until about 1940.
Computers still seem to be working these things out.
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a problem with the companies, not with the software. It's the same with home users. People expect the interface to not change, likely because computers are still new for a lot of people and they can remember a time without them. I think cars make for a good analogy here. People get a new car, and they have to relearn some things. Not the large things, like how to drive, or the rules of the road, but where the…
It took roughly 40 years for cars to work out what equipment would be standard and where it would go. I'm reading Robert J. Gordon's The Rise and Fall of American Growth , which looks at trends and patterns over the period since the Civil War (1870), most especially what he terms "the special century" (1870-1970), and also examined as three periods, 1870 - 1920, 1920 - 1970, and 1970 - present (almost even 50 year in…
I think they finished working out most the standard inclusions like that about a decade ago, at this point people get mad over their placement. I would consider the following an incomplete short list of essentials that all (desktop) operating systems offer:
- File storage and manipulation
- File search
- Networking
- Application installation, management and (local) discovery
- Application running and managing multiple running applications at once
- Regular system security and bugfix updates
I think most the complains at this point are on very small changes to those things, such as their appearance or where to find them. Fro example, the whole windows 8 start menu problem. That's purely a matter of different display and slightly different functionality of application discovery.
Re: New Photoshop UI has become a major problem on the official feedback forum
#60> After about eight hours in Photoshop and Illustrator I feel pretty confident in describing the 2015.1 GUI changes as a bizarre gaffe. It's hard to imagine that Adobe don't follow a UAT and beta test roll out model of their software, so is this just a case of a few users shouting the loudest or is there genuinely an issue with the UI. The comments on the article span a period of 3 months ago to 1 week ago. > And yet…
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