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Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by kiallmacinnes »

xpaulbettsx wrote: post #172

As the lead developer of the Slack Windows app, this move is absolutely phenomenal for me. Win7 is a huge proportion of our support tickets and causes us no end of grief. To put what these Windows users are doing in perspective, Windows users are holding onto an OS that was released at the same time as OS X 10.6, and not only doing it, but demanding that developers support this version. If you asked any Cocoa develop…

Windows 8, and even Windows 8.1 were so utterly terrible its no wonder people are asking for windows 7 support. I'm betting 90%+ of business has stayed on 7, which often translates to individuals sticking with 7 too as it's what they know, and their IT dept / guy told them as much.

Your blame is misplaced, these Windows users are doing nothing wrong. Microsoft did terrible releases for years, and is trying to recover from that mistake in a terrible way.

Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by kbart »

justinclift wrote: post #41
acqq wrote: post #2

Maybe the way to block it is still: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351 Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1 The MSFT decision to perform forced updates is covered, for example, by Extreme Tech, February 2: "Look out: Microsoft shifts Windows 10 to ‘Recommended’ update, automatic download" http://www.extremetech.com/computing/222326-look-out-micro…

I'm really hoping this crap badly affects the computers of some large justice/gov systems around the world (and/or the home computers of senior judges). That should get the right people involved for sticking the boots in.

"I'm really hoping this crap badly affects the computers of some large justice/gov systems around the world"

Enterprise editions are not eligible for free upgrade to W10, so it's not likely. Also, there are additional safeguards, for example, you must get upgrades directly from MS, not WSUS (as per standard business practice). I'm sure MS thought that well and chose targets that are not likely to defend themselves in courts (home users and small business).

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Post by acqq »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #210
acqq wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as Windows should be installed on the early sectors of the hard disk in both cases) Not after enough updates.

I'm suggesting his father stops using the laptop until his son can attempt recovering the files to get around problems like this.

Yes, if it's possible, it's certainly worth at least trying rescuing what's left. It's very possible however that the rescue operation can simply be too complicated and too time demanding for the people involved, and that at the end the amount of the rescued data is too small. Apparently what is missing is "all the organization and notes" of the scanned photos.

Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by progman »

Calm down and relax! Microsoft knows better than you what is good for you ;-)

Honestly, I ditched Windows since XP completely in favor of Linux, and it turned out to be a very good decision.

MS' extremely unfriendly behavior to its customers is indication of desparation. WinPhone failed against iOS and Android, and PC purchases are shrinking continually. This means MS is shrinking continually, and they know it very well.

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Post by yrro »

chris_wot wrote: post #194
erickhill wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably a lost cause. He had over 4K photos that he had taken in the 70s digitized from slides and organized. All that work was blown away. He has digi backups of the files, but all the organization and notes are gone. He's 77 with a quad-bypass in December, and the thought of starting over is, well, depressing for him. Not sure he's going to even try at this point.

How do you do a backup that retains Windows metadata?

It's hardly a proper backup if file metadata is not preserved.

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Post by acqq »

yardie wrote: post #107
acqq wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about a lot of computers which aren't in the possession of huge enterprises?

"the computers of some large justice/gov systems around the world"

For example, the computers important guys use at home, and somebody still dies because the computer isn't available when it should have been? I know, EULA.

That EULA is a "wild card" is the main problem now.

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Post by ionised »

BuckRogers wrote: post #84

MS is getting pretty draconian with the Windows 10 shtick. I'm not sure why there's such a push, just let people buy a Windows 10 computer when the Windows 7 machines fail. Fighting MS on this is a losing battle, all the workarounds are going to be a non-stop, futile exercise. Unless I have a specific needs for Windows, if this makes anyone uncomfortable to read (like myself)- I think this is the ideal time to jump o…

> I'm not sure why there's such a push

They stand to make a shit load of money having people on Windows 10.

Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade

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Post by shiven »

acqq wrote: post #216
yardie wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the computers of some large justice/gov systems around the world"

For example, the computers important guys use at home, and somebody still dies because the computer isn't available when it should have been? I know, EULA. That EULA is a "wild card" is the main problem now.

the computers important guys use at home

Hillary's email-gate?

So, no, important guys should not be using home computers that control/decide life or death situations.

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