The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by pius » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 2:50 AM UTC

The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."
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Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by boucher » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:25 AM UTC

This is definitely true, the nightly builds of WebKit right now are incredibly fast. But, the shipping version of Safari is also much much faster than Firefox 2, and is still faster than Firefox 3 Beta. Safari has come a long way in a short time, it's an incredible browser.

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by pg » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:26 AM UTC

boucher wrote: post #2

This is definitely true, the nightly builds of WebKit right now are incredibly fast. But, the shipping version of Safari is also much much faster than Firefox 2, and is still faster than Firefox 3 Beta. Safari has come a long way in a short time, it's an incredible browser.

It's pretty impressive that Apple can compete with open source. I forgot that was possible.

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by tolmasky » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:33 AM UTC

pg wrote: post #3

boucher wrote: post #2

This is definitely true, the nightly builds of WebKit right now are incredibly fast. But, the shipping version of Safari is also much much faster than Firefox 2, and is still faster than Firefox 3 Beta. Safari has come a long way in a short time, it's an incredible browser.

It's pretty impressive that Apple can compete with open source. I forgot that was possible.

Apple has open source figured out. It's the prefect fusion: the core technologies (http://webkit.org) are open source, but they manage the UI like no one else can. Software with style, the way it should be. The WebKit team is absolutely fantastic too, I miss them.

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by boucher » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:35 AM UTC

pg wrote: post #3

boucher wrote: post #2

This is definitely true, the nightly builds of WebKit right now are incredibly fast. But, the shipping version of Safari is also much much faster than Firefox 2, and is still faster than Firefox 3 Beta. Safari has come a long way in a short time, it's an incredible browser.

It's pretty impressive that Apple can compete with open source. I forgot that was possible.

Apple competes with open source all the time. Linux is the most obvious example, but most consumer open source software competes with either Apple or MS, and open source is almost always losing. I think what makes this unique is that Firefox is an unusually well designed product that appeals to the average consumer in ways most open source software does not. It also had a head start, and has a huge user base.

In fact, you could argue that unlike usual, Apple is actually winning on technology, and not usability, since perhaps the biggest advantage to firefox is its ability to install plugins.

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:38 AM UTC

boucher wrote: post #5

pg wrote: post #3

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It's pretty impressive that Apple can compete with open source. I forgot that was possible.

Apple competes with open source all the time. Linux is the most obvious example, but most consumer open source software competes with either Apple or MS, and open source is almost always losing. I think what makes this unique is that Firefox is an unusually well designed product that appeals to the average consumer in ways most open source software does not. It also had a head start, and has a huge user base. In fact…

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Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by pius » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:46 AM UTC

Now who wants to learn Objective-C with me and port some of Flock's sweet Web 2.0 features over to Safari/Webkit? ;)

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by kinkydarkbird » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 3:56 AM UTC

Safari is not the only browser to use webkit.

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by systems » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 8:03 AM UTC

pius wrote: post #7

Now who wants to learn Objective-C with me and port some of Flock's sweet Web 2.0 features over to Safari/Webkit? ;)

Objective-C? I thought webkit was Qt/C++ like everything Kde!

Re: The latest build of Webkit "has to be seen to be believed."

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Post by tolmasky » Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 8:10 AM UTC

systems wrote: post #9

pius wrote: post #7

Now who wants to learn Objective-C with me and port some of Flock's sweet Web 2.0 features over to Safari/Webkit? ;)

Objective-C? I thought webkit was Qt/C++ like everything Kde!

WebKit proper is Objective-C. WebCore and JavaScriptCore (which sit below WebKit) are both C++ (technically portions are Objective-C++ I guess).