I wonder if there are pages on reddit commenting a comment page from HN...
Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
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Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#32Dual booting with Fedora. I voluntarily upgraded the Win 7 partition to give it a whirl a while back. They said I would have 30 days to go back.
Less than 24 hours later ... Nope.
The only place I want Windows running on my personal hardware is in a VM. Done with them.
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#33Strangely nobody has ever caught this on video. Just a handful of anonymous people claiming "I totally didn't hit the wrong button in the UI!!" Now, sure, I'd agree it should be harder to accidentally upgrade your PC. In particular for layman users. But I am generally skeptical that this is any more than just user error until proven otherwise. I have a Windows 7 PC I use regularly, I too get the upgrade prompts, but…
I don't know if this was changed for the external release, but when Windows 10 was rolled out internally to employees at Microsoft, a significant fraction (but not all) employees weren't notified and had their machines reboot without warning. This happened in the middle of the workday and caused a lot of employees to lose half a day, and that's in the happy case where nothing went wrong with the install. > I flagged…
Are employees at Microsoft using Windows Update or WSUS? That anecdote doesn't make sense because enterprise users have a completely different update pipeline with completely different controls (i.e. an administrator using WSUS can purposely force an update installation).
Just to be clear are you or are you not claiming to be a Microsoft employee?
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#34Wouldn't the automatic upgrade mean you didn't agree to any T&C?
You did agree if you set Windows Update to automatically install updates. The upgrade to Window 10 is being treated as an "update".
Unless the auto-update terms in Windows Update expressly state that using it means you agree to any future, unknown terms that may apply to those updates, then agreeing to automatic updates would not be sufficient.
That is, unless the terms for Windows 10 are exactly the same as the version from which you are upgrading. That hardly seems likely, given that it is free and comes with new features, such as advertising, etc.
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#35Strangely nobody has ever caught this on video. Just a handful of anonymous people claiming "I totally didn't hit the wrong button in the UI!!" Now, sure, I'd agree it should be harder to accidentally upgrade your PC. In particular for layman users. But I am generally skeptical that this is any more than just user error until proven otherwise. I have a Windows 7 PC I use regularly, I too get the upgrade prompts, but…
No, it's forced. I came home from work and there was pop-up window which I thought was the usual nag screen. It said my Windows 10 download was ready. Except this one had a count down timer at around 54 minutes left. There was also an option "I need more time...". I X'd the box closed and went on thinking whatever. 54 minutes later, in the middle of typing an email, the system auto rebooted and "Configuring Update fo…
If that's the dialog I think it is, there should be a cancel button that would then roll back the update. Takes a good long while, and is BS of course, but would land you back where you were.
Of course, they seem to be iterating on the update dialogs. I'm not saying it's to get past those avoiding the update, but it's probably to get past those avoiding the update.
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not VLC?
While it comes down to some level of personal preference - VLC is not faithful to source material in regards to color balance/contrast and this is apparent in scenes with shadows. VLC will have a "washed out" look. Some users prefer that "washed out" look though (for scenes with very heavy shadows it often does look aesthetically better) but others prefer faithfulness to the original. MPC-HC is more faithful to the o…
This is an artifact of hardware YUV->RGB conversion, and can often be fixed by adjusting your video card settings. See e.g. https://wiki.videolan.org/VSG:Video:Color_washed_out/
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#37Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#38Strangely nobody has ever caught this on video. Just a handful of anonymous people claiming "I totally didn't hit the wrong button in the UI!!" Now, sure, I'd agree it should be harder to accidentally upgrade your PC. In particular for layman users. But I am generally skeptical that this is any more than just user error until proven otherwise. I have a Windows 7 PC I use regularly, I too get the upgrade prompts, but…
> PS - I flagged this article on purpose because I don't consider a random Reddit thread to be a legitimate source.
You should be flagged here then, not because you don't trust Reddit but because you haven't checked any other sources, including these linked in the comments here, long before you posted your comment!
It's documented by Microsoft:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351
"How to manage the Windows 10 upgrade
Automatic scenarios
The Windows 10 upgrade is automatically blocked (that is, no further action is required) on computers or other devices in the following scenarios: .."
Note: no further action is required to stop computer to being upgraded only on Enterprise!
"Non-automatic scenarios
You can manage the Windows 10 upgrade by using any of the following methods."
Managing here means -- you can read slowly the whole article -- the ability to disable automatic upgrade! No action taken -- upgrade happens. Even if you have hidden the previous update! You have to enter the proper new registry entry or group policy:
"administrators who want to prevent Windows 7, Windows 7 for Embedded Systems, Windows 8.1, and Windows Embedded 8.1 Pro clients from upgrading should enable the policy settings that are discussed in this article."
It's not that "no click" is needed, it's that the people who do that click don't have any idea what is going to happen, e.g. they are not the "qualified administrators" of their own computers. Like most of the people who let other people installing them software. Now it's just something like:
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Win10....
Dark pattern par excellence.
Hard to believe but true.
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#39Here's the update: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3035583 ...that explains the Windows 10 update, but on my machine it just says "Install this update to resolve issues in Windows. blah blah blah " which is the same boilerplate they all use. The update size is uniquely given as a range 722 KB - 821 KB, which is probably a low estimate for an OS installer. So, no indication of the magnitude of this. Since it is…
That's just for the (non-removable) button in the taskbar. There are in fact a number of different updates related to the upgrade from windows 7 to windows 10.
Re: Windows 7 computers are automatically starting the Windows 10 upgrade
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You did agree if you set Windows Update to automatically install updates. The upgrade to Window 10 is being treated as an "update".
Unless the auto-update terms in Windows Update expressly state that using it means you agree to any future, unknown terms that may apply to those updates, then agreeing to automatic updates would not be sufficient. That is, unless the terms for Windows 10 are exactly the same as the version from which you are upgrading. That hardly seems likely, given that it is free and comes with new features, such as advertising,…
All I can tell you is that it's listed under optional updates, and it's automatically checked[0].