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Re: Caffeine use disorder

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I weaned myself off of caffeine entirely seven months ago. Being free of caffeine has greatly improved the quality of my sleep and made my mood more even throughout the day. I really appreciate being able to jump straight out of bed in the morning without depending on that coffee to get my brain working.

At what time of day did you typically have your last coffee?

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I've used occasions when I had the flu to quit, figuring that I feel shitty anyway, so the withdrawal symptoms won't matter that much. Of course eventually I took it up again - unfortunately after a couple of weeks of withdrawal, it tastes really good. But what fascinates me is that being easy to quit might be part of why it is hard to quit. It's easy to say "heck, I'll quit tomorrow, it is so easy after all".

Quitting an addiction is easy, any junkie can do it... several times a day ;) I went cold-turkey a few years ago, lasted several months, helped immensely with palpitations and sleep-pattern problems. In fact, I should probably do it again at some point this year, but with kids and work it becomes difficult to plan the inevitable couple of weeks of "zombie time". Maybe doctors should start considering it a real addict…

I took leave to do it. Caffeine withdrawal head aches are nasty. Make sure you titrate off, don't go cold turkey.

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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Benefits of quitting caffeine for me : - fewer head aches - much better sleep - reduced mid afternoon blahs - easier wake ups - ability to use small amounts of caffeine for medicinal purposes. (by itself or to enhance the effects of other drugs)

Huh, I get fewer headaches and wake up easier with coffee.

That's because you're addicted. You're dependent on it to wake up, and when you don't use it, you get withdrawal headaches. You may need to go about a month caffeine free to see the benefits

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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I weaned myself off of caffeine entirely seven months ago. Being free of caffeine has greatly improved the quality of my sleep and made my mood more even throughout the day. I really appreciate being able to jump straight out of bed in the morning without depending on that coffee to get my brain working.

I believe that's a fairly common experience (it was mine too when I quit for a year). Caffeine leads to highs and lows. W/o caffeine and having good sleeping patterns leads to higher average energy level and less highs and lows.

Personally though, I love the taste and enjoy the experience of "waking up" with a cup of coffee over the course of the first 20 minutes of the day.

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Huh, I get fewer headaches and wake up easier with coffee.

That's because you're addicted. You're dependent on it to wake up, and when you don't use it, you get withdrawal headaches. You may need to go about a month caffeine free to see the benefits

Or GP may be prone to migraines and potentially doesn't know it... I am and find caffeine pretty good at dulling their effects over multi-day migraines (Which I get fairly regularly).

The frequency of migraines for me is independent of caffeine consumption; I've gones months with no caffeine and suffered though migraines, just as I've gone through months of heavy coffee/tea drinking and suffered (a little less) through them

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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post #8

I weaned myself off of caffeine entirely seven months ago. Being free of caffeine has greatly improved the quality of my sleep and made my mood more even throughout the day. I really appreciate being able to jump straight out of bed in the morning without depending on that coffee to get my brain working.

I believe that's a fairly common experience (it was mine too when I quit for a year). Caffeine leads to highs and lows. W/o caffeine and having good sleeping patterns leads to higher average energy level and less highs and lows. Personally though, I love the taste and enjoy the experience of "waking up" with a cup of coffee over the course of the first 20 minutes of the day.

> Personally though, I love the taste and enjoy the experience of "waking up" with a cup of coffee over the course of the first 20 minutes of the day.

Yep, which is why I switched to decaf. Still the same taste (there are ok decaf coffees out there) but none of the bad effects of excessive caffeine.

(Most decaf still has ~10% of the caffeine of regular coffee, but even with 4 or 5 cups of decaf a day it's not enough for dependency; I get no withdrawal symptoms if I stop for any length of time).

I still drink the odd normal coffee (if someone/somewhere doesn't have decaf) but a maximum of one a day otherwise it will affect my sleep that night; it also gives me a proper coffee buzz for the short period after drinking it.

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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The thing to remember with caffeine is its half-life in non-smokers is 8 hours (it is 3 hours in smokers). I have a rule to never have any drink with caffeine after midday - if I break this rule even by an hour I suffer that night and the next day. Caffine is a morning drug.

This is highly personal, and there's no substitute for experiment. My rule is no (caffeinated) soda within an hour of bedtime, and no coffee within 3-4 hours, so the variation is wide. I don't smoke, by the way.

As an aside, the whole "8 hour half-life" is astonishingly high, to me. Caffeine is nice, but it doesn't seem to have that strong an effect on me, and certainly nothing I notice 5-8 hours after. I drink quite a lot of caffeine these days, but even at times when I went off caffeine for a few weeks, I didn't get effect durations any longer than 1-3 hours.

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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The only reason I drink coffee is because it makes me poop. There is scientifically proven that 25% of people who drink coffee are pooping shortly after. But addicted? Hell know.

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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post #8

I weaned myself off of caffeine entirely seven months ago. Being free of caffeine has greatly improved the quality of my sleep and made my mood more even throughout the day. I really appreciate being able to jump straight out of bed in the morning without depending on that coffee to get my brain working.

At what time of day did you typically have your last coffee?

For the last few years before I quit entirely, I was careful not to have caffeine after lunch or early afternoon. Nonetheless, quitting morning coffee has improved my sleep. I'm 44. I think I became more sensitive to the effect on my sleep as I got older, as I hear is common.

Re: Caffeine use disorder

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Huh, I get fewer headaches and wake up easier with coffee.

That's because you're addicted. You're dependent on it to wake up, and when you don't use it, you get withdrawal headaches. You may need to go about a month caffeine free to see the benefits

If it takes longer than a week to be completely free of withdrawal symptoms, there's something else wrong, I'd think. Two or three days is a more normal recovery time.
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