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Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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Full disclosure: I'm a founder of a company called Scholastica that provides software that helps journals peer-review and publish open-access content online. One of our journal clients, Discrete Analysis, is linked to in the NYT article. It is incredibly obvious that journal content shouldn't cost as much as it does. - Scholars write the content for free - Scholars do the peer-review for free - All the legacy publish…

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Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not getting paid by the publisher.

No we don't get paid by the publisher but we are paid to write papers. I can be downvoted for being correct but it doesn't change anything. Researchers are paid by research institution to do research for which product are papers.

You’re being downvoted because this technicality / POV has no real bearing on the main question and doesn’t add to the discussion.

Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

#193
I think Elbakyan should do everything to make sci-hub easily replaceable. Once it's hosted on multiple places it would be much harder to shut down.

Maybe completely free research papers are not the future but there should be a Spotify for research papers that is affordable for everyone. I hope that Elbakyan will reach her goal and ultimately change the whole industry.

Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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post #180

Publishing used to cost money when it required physical printing/distrubution/storage of journals. Now all of this is basically free, but they still charge. Most theoretical physicists for example only care about "publishing" in the ArXiv (all free, open source). The traditional publishing is ridiculous.

Publishing cost today is smaller -- yet publishers actually charge more.

Libraries used to get a physical copy of the papers, which would grant lifetime access to the research.

Today, they pay for subscription, and as soon as they stop paying, they lose access to everything.

Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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I feel especially strongly that papers that result from taxpayer-funded research should be free.

From a government / national perspective should it be free world wide? If so, why should nations give away their expensive research that potentially give them an edge either military or commercially? Personally I almost never traded technology when I played civilization, let alone give it away!

No, it's rather important, vital indeed, that code is published. Ironically Phil Jones of the UK Met Centre made this point himself:

    "We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it. "
Some of us always thought that having your ideas and results discussed and examined in a public forum was what science, an intensely cooperative activity, was about.

- And especially when public policy often demanding massive input from the taxpayer depends on it.

Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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If it is funded by government in any way (public university, research project) I think it is borderline defrauding the tax payer that the research funded by tax-money is not free by default. Since close to all research is government funded in some way, shape or form...my answer would be yes in the general case.

I think the long term answer is decentralized publishing. Publish everything you do on a university or private website and let others decide if it's good or not when they want to cite it instead of a peer review that is set in stone. I think people reading papers deciding if they want to cite you are smart enough to figure out if it's good research or not. The peer review process is overrated (and quite often suffers from insider networks). If you decentralize publishing you can also have other researchers upvote a paper to basically approve of the academic standards in the paper. I also think the static nature of papers is a problem. I'd much rather cite a specific version of the paper. I'm thinking about git and pull requests along the lines of "want to cite, fixed layout" or "new research disproves this" etc.

Re: Should All Research Papers Be Free?

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Full disclosure: I'm a founder of a company called Scholastica that provides software that helps journals peer-review and publish open-access content online. One of our journal clients, Discrete Analysis, is linked to in the NYT article. It is incredibly obvious that journal content shouldn't cost as much as it does. - Scholars write the content for free - Scholars do the peer-review for free - All the legacy publish…

Of course the publishers say they create immense value by typesetting said PDFs, but as technologists, we can clearly see that this is bunk. Amusingly, when I was a grad student, some friends showed me how they could use LaTeX to produce a manuscript that looked like a spitting image of a Physical Review article. That was in 1992.

Well Phys.Rev. makes their LaTeX style file freely available, so it's not surprising. But yeah, it lifts quite an amount of burden from their editors if you already use their style for typesetting.

https://journals.aps.org/revtex

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