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Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by frik »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #11

Alternative hypothesis (assuming a bug rather than intended behavior): YouTube is testing a new ad mechanism, and the new mechanism (rather naturally) wasn't tested on systems blocking ads; it then produces a delay if the ad can't be downloaded, rather than silently skipping it. But yeah, I do tend to watch most of my videos through youtube-dl these days, even though the HTML5 player works fine for me in Firefox with…

> assuming a bug rather than intended behavior ... rest of your comment

So you also concluded: it's not a bug, but an intentional "feature" to suppress ad-blockers

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by megalodon »

meritt wrote: post #70

YouTube is free. It's free because Google pays for it via ads. If you aren't watching ads, then you're effectively not paying for the content. Exactly what are people expecting to happen and why are they mad at Google here? Why do they feel like they're owed something for nothing? If you don't like it, go launch and finance your own free-to-watch-no-ads-included video site.

It's free because it was free before Google bought it in '06.

The world wide web was based on the idea of sharing, not paying for content by being forced to watch ads that I would never ever watch intentionally. Or do you want the internet to be like television?

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by meritt »

hysan wrote: post #120
meritt wrote: post #70

YouTube is free. It's free because Google pays for it via ads. If you aren't watching ads, then you're effectively not paying for the content. Exactly what are people expecting to happen and why are they mad at Google here? Why do they feel like they're owed something for nothing? If you don't like it, go launch and finance your own free-to-watch-no-ads-included video site.

Incorrect. It's free because Google pays for it by: - tracking users both on YouTube and outside of it - then using the collected data to sell more targeted ads If it were just ads, then far fewer people would care about watching them (at least in the HN demographic). So if you are going to use this argument, please use it correctly.

My comment is actually quite correct. The reality is YouTube generates revenue in numerous ways and only one of which I pointed out as it pertained to the discussion at hand.

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by ghrifter »

j_s wrote: post #56
stepvhen wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

youtube-dl can fetch a video via its ID, the part after the "/watch?v= " in the URL. Combined with a video player, such as vlc, mpv, mpc-hc or similar, you can stream youtube videos without viewing from the youtube website. There are scripts available that make this less DIY, such as ones that launch your video player with youtube-dl when you load a page on youtube, though I do not have any of those on hand to show y…

The question was more about discovery than how the tool worked... I'd imagine he doesn't watch much YouTube but just uses youtube-dl when the videos are found on other sites.

I watch a bit of YouTube, but I only use YouTube-dl to doownload videos I really like - like abridgements or YTPs - stuff that can easily be copyright notice'd down

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by hysan »

meritt wrote: post #126
hysan wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect. It's free because Google pays for it by: - tracking users both on YouTube and outside of it - then using the collected data to sell more targeted ads If it were just ads, then far fewer people would care about watching them (at least in the HN demographic). So if you are going to use this argument, please use it correctly.

My comment is actually quite correct. The reality is YouTube generates revenue in numerous ways and only one of which I pointed out as it pertained to the discussion at hand.

> If you aren't watching ads, then you're effectively not paying for the content.

What if the user doesn't watch ads but allows Google to track them outside of YouTube, and then Google uses that data to sell higher priced ads elsewhere? Ads you may allow because not all websites are obnoxious about how they serve ads. That is another way you are paying for YouTube content. It's disingenuous [via your original statement] to state that not watching YouTube ads means you aren't paying for the content. Users are already paying for the content in a lot of other ways that aren't immediately transparent. Hence why I said you're incorrect. You are leaving out information to support your stance and make the issue black and white when in reality, it isn't so simple.

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by keehun »

BEEdwards wrote: post #97
keehun wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this sentiment. It was weird to watch HBO's new edition of the Godfather (7.5hr one) with ads embedded in the video—but it felt much more like TV.

Maybe the wrong thread for the question, but what is the appeal of an 8hr recut of the movies? What is being added?

There is a myriad of new clips that have been added. I found that it really added to the story--but did lengthen the film quite a bit.

I think it was really smart to have edited those out because they ultimately did not change the meanings in the movie while making it quite a bit longer. However, having watched the trilogy a few times already, I found these new clips to add a lot of depth to the characters and the progression of the movie. You have to understand that the 7 and half hours do not include the 3rd film. The 2 films and new clips account for the entire length.

Also, this recut is in chronological order--and does not use flashbacks. I found this to work really well for me because I had already seen the film many times. However, I do agree with the decision to use flashbacks for first-time viewers as the parallelism Coppola draws is amazing. The chronological recut did add a new perspective on the film that I enjoyed.

Re: YouTube now shows "An error has occurred" while ads running

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Post by tn13 »

beedogs wrote: post #24
amelius wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well in that case, just view the videos in an anonymous window, and login when you want to place a comment. Also minimizes tracking.

I've never felt the need to comment on a video on Youtube. The 4chan phrase "pissing into an ocean of piss" springs to mind.

Exactly. I always liked to "Like" a video so I could revisit in future but now I simply bookmark it in the browser.
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