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Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
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Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing to do with yahoo. Mayer failing makes hn happy. Wonder why?
Yahoo is one of the oldest Internet companies. It's the first portal / search engine that some of us used on a regular basis. So it has a place in our hearts. It also pre-dates the era of gender hysteria and other assorted identity politics brought to tech by social justice warriors. Happier times.
> It also pre-dates the era of gender hysteria and other assorted identity politics brought to tech by social justice warriors.
Sorry but this pretty much only exists in the minds of a niche group of disaffected, geeky men. The rest of the world has found more constructive ways to deal with the opposite sex and would find the idea we are living in an "era" of it frankly bizarre.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#33Is she willing to take $1 pay and get rest of her compensation in stock options that expire 5 years from now? How much is she willing to invest in Yahoo stock or stock futures by herself? If I were in the Yahoo board, those would be my first questions. Best way to test her commitment and trust for her own strategy is to see how much she is willing to bet her own money on it.
More like the board should ask for cash money and stock options back just to give her a chance, but the opportunity cost of leaving her on far exceeds anything she even has the capacity to pay back.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#34Is she willing to take $1 pay and get rest of her compensation in stock options that expire 5 years from now? How much is she willing to invest in Yahoo stock or stock futures by herself? If I were in the Yahoo board, those would be my first questions. Best way to test her commitment and trust for her own strategy is to see how much she is willing to bet her own money on it.
I had a lot of faith in Mayer's turn around. Do I think she needs more time? Yes. Do I think she can do it in more time? I'm skeptical now. Will the board, that she created, try to keep her accountable like you're saying? I hope so. I'm skeptical. It seems AOL/Armstrong really wanted to merge to become a new Yahoo. I'm curious on how Yahoo will pivot, with the time. FB, SnapChat, Instagram, Twitter, and Google are fi…
I had no faith at all in Mayer. Not because she isn't a good product manager.
Mainly because for a turnaround situation I would hire someone who was there before with a successful turnaround under h-- belt. Not someone without any turnaround knowledge (what to cut, high investor pressure, ...)
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing to do with yahoo. Mayer failing makes hn happy. Wonder why?
HN likes it when overpaid, over-hyped leaders fail in general, especially after doing massively unpopular and short-sighted things like killing work from home policies. If Mayer had actually done a good job at Yahoo and turned things around, HN would be propping her up as a hero. Instead, she proved her inexperience, inflexibility, and narrow focus make her a poor CEO for a company like Yahoo, and the board and media…
Yes - I think this comment sums it up well.
Remember how the media celebrated her appointment, focussing on her gender, as if the silver bullet of "gender diversity" will resolve the many problems we have in tech management. The media did this before she'd demonstrated any leadership or success.
For some who hold more interest in identity politics than technology, the mere appointment of a female CEO was success enough.
Yet, ironically, it is this politically-fueled attention to her gender that now resonates as we observe her failure. Let's hope it doesn't create damaging prejudices against other female leaders. If it does, I hope the real culprits are as obvious to other readers as they are to me.
We need to rein in the social justice warriors and stop tech being used as a vehicle for gender identity politics and virtue-signalling.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#36I wish I could tell my customers, I just need 3 more years to solve these bugs.
I wish too that fixing those bugs last week had the same impact as turning around a struggling multi billion dollar business.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yahoo is one of the oldest Internet companies. It's the first portal / search engine that some of us used on a regular basis. So it has a place in our hearts. It also pre-dates the era of gender hysteria and other assorted identity politics brought to tech by social justice warriors. Happier times.
> It also pre-dates the era of gender hysteria and other assorted identity politics brought to tech by social justice warriors. Sorry but this pretty much only exists in the minds of a niche group of disaffected, geeky men. The rest of the world has found more constructive ways to deal with the opposite sex and would find the idea we are living in an "era" of it frankly bizarre.
I don't think you understand my point.
This isn't about eras of men or women. It's nothing to do with how men and women interact. My point was about eras of identity politics around gender.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a lot of faith in Mayer's turn around. Do I think she needs more time? Yes. Do I think she can do it in more time? I'm skeptical now. Will the board, that she created, try to keep her accountable like you're saying? I hope so. I'm skeptical. It seems AOL/Armstrong really wanted to merge to become a new Yahoo. I'm curious on how Yahoo will pivot, with the time. FB, SnapChat, Instagram, Twitter, and Google are fi…
I had no faith at all in Mayer. Not because she isn't a good product manager. Mainly because for a turnaround situation I would hire someone who was there before with a successful turnaround under h-- belt. Not someone without any turnaround knowledge (what to cut, high investor pressure, ...)
Yahoo reminds me a lot of Apple before Steve Jobs rejoined.
They don't need a turnaround artist like Gil Amelio they need an insanely great product person to bring back some innovation, creativity and attention to detail. Based on her experience and from what everyone says about her she should have been perfect. And I'm quite baffled why she's not managing to get any runs on the board.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#39Why is HN obsessed with Yahoo ? See for example : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11013507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11121796
For me, several years ago when the ISP technician finally setup my modem after spending hours doing do, the first site I visited in my life was www.yahoo.com :)
It was one of the first for me as well. They used to have a section where users could post their favorite sites. I would go through, just clicking and exploring, and eventually learning.
Re: Marissa Mayer Wants Three More Years to Turn Around Yahoo
#40Not sure why all the hate. When she joined Yahoo in 2012, stock was ~$18 for a good 6 years. Since then, it's doubled