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The elephants in the room at TED

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Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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The controversy is over a measly $6000? That's what the fuss is about? Most people on this site have had $100,000+ spent by their parents in order for them to attend an invitation-only institution at which they spent four years networking with the supposed future leaders! Gasp!

Honestly, TED seems like a much better investment than an elite college. Four years' time and $100-200k, at an age where it's mostly impossible to predict who will accomplish anything, with those "future leaders" selected by unqualified bureaucrats? Or $6000 for face-time with sure bets? Just sayin'.

There are a lot of problems with our society and with parasitic elites, so don't get me wrong: I'm all about busting and beating on those who try to hoard power. I'd love to see a car bomb hit Skull and Bones, and I'd gladly contribute to an Internet hit pool on anyone who attended the Bilderberg conference. But we have to pick our targets carefully, and TED does not seem to deserve our indignation, at least not based on what I've read. My understanding is that it's relatively easy to get in if you have the $6000 (again, cheaper than college) and sign up early; it seems like it's difficult to enter because there's so much demand that the spots fill up early. Well? That's life.

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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Herein Scoble fulfills the "huge responsibility"[1] of getting a rare TED press pass by reminding us once again of how awesome it is to be Scoble. In a truly shocking turn of events, getting to attend has made him no longer jealous of people who get to attend. Sweet badges, networking with rich folk and stage decor that helps you "weave together a fabric that encourages your mind to explore new ideas" while staring o…

I'm tickled to see elitists getting out elited(I'm making up words now, but you get my drift).

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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Upon learning about the $6,000 cost to get in, I shall think of TED Talks as a tax on rich people to provide free, online quality content to the rest of the world.

I'm actually surprised by the public spat over $6000 ; I figured it was much more or invite only. I mean, heck, a lot of the web conferences are $2000-3000.

"I don’t have $6,000..."

More surprising is that Scoble's been doing whatever it is he does for so long and he doesn't have $6000.

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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Personally, I find about 80% of TED talks to be painfully pretentious, saccharine, or so desperately worthy they just make me weary. For example: "how we rescued the dancing bears", "embrace your inner girl", "[someone] teaches kids to take charge", "the uniqueness of humans"; things I could only listen to with gritted teeth.

Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap.

For sure; but e.g. with science fiction, I can delve well into, say, the top 60% without feeling nauseous. The same is not the case with TED.

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

#46

The controversy is over a measly $6000? That's what the fuss is about? Most people on this site have had $100,000+ spent by their parents in order for them to attend an invitation-only institution at which they spent four years networking with the supposed future leaders! Gasp! Honestly, TED seems like a much better investment than an elite college. Four years' time and $100-200k, at an age where it's mostly impossib…

Most people on this site? Really?

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually surprised by the public spat over $6000 ; I figured it was much more or invite only. I mean, heck, a lot of the web conferences are $2000-3000.

"I don’t have $6,000..." More surprising is that Scoble's been doing whatever it is he does for so long and he doesn't have $6000.

I believe Mr. Scoble has a family. Anyone here with a family that still works for a living will tell you that you don't have $6000 to spend on yourself.

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

#48
I don't like TED, but I like information.

Don't get me wrong, there is spectacular information being distributed by TED, but I almost feel tricked into obtaining it. The conference is so heavily designed around status, and ego that it seems like more of a marketing tool for the intellectual elite to boost their personal brand than a platform to share ideas. It's inefficient, and deceptive.

What I'd like to see instead of 5-20min presentations is one html webpage with bits of text and perhaps a few high quality images, or at least the option to access the information in this format. To me, everything else is fluff. I just want the information, not the ego, not the voice, not the brands, not the emotion, not the cheering. Just the information.

I know I might be coming across as snarky, or counter-elitist, but it really isn't my intention. I love quality information, and TED confuses me. I often want to idolize and praise these wonderful people that give wonderful speeches more than their ideas, and I'm saddened. Would the information be any less profound written on a bathroom wall? I'm definitely torn, but I'm beginning to think it doesn't matter...

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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$6000 a ticket isn't a lot considering the caliber of speakers that they bring in. They're paying the speakers, right?

"TED has never paid speakers to attend, but we're committed to creating an experience that's tremendously fulfilling and beneficial on all sides. We do, of course, cover travel costs to Long Beach or Palm Springs, and provide excellent hotel accommodation." Source: http://www.ted.com/pages/view/id/73

Well, the travel expenses aren't anywhere near what a speaking fee would be, but at least the speakers aren't having to dip in to their own pockets to make a free talk happen. So where does the $6000/ticket go? It seems like a bit more than what would be necessary to cover those costs.

Re: The elephants in the room at TED

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post #29

Personally, I find about 80% of TED talks to be painfully pretentious, saccharine, or so desperately worthy they just make me weary. For example: "how we rescued the dancing bears", "embrace your inner girl", "[someone] teaches kids to take charge", "the uniqueness of humans"; things I could only listen to with gritted teeth.

Yeah, the socio-political talks are pretty soft-ball, but I really enjoy the tech and art talks.
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