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How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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I would be all for banning submissions from zerohedge.com outright. It's just noise that makes it harder for me to skim headlines for actual content.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I feel the same way about Vice. Its not news, its entertainment. And when you can't disambiguate the two, its fucking dangerous.

BBC.com is FAR worse than Vice.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

#52

From the Filipino source here: http://business.inquirer.net/207742/100-m-laundering-via-ph-... > a total of $100 million that was brought into the country’s banking system, sold to a black market foreign exchange broker, transferred to at least three large local casinos, sold back to the money broker and moved out to overseas accounts. Here's how I think that this heist went and I am just speculating here based solel…

Why would you mix a money stealing operation with a money counterfitting one? It doesn't make sense. And we are talking huge sums here, the fake money would quickly show up everywhere in that area.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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post #49

I would be all for banning submissions from zerohedge.com outright. It's just noise that makes it harder for me to skim headlines for actual content.

Thirded. ZeroHedge is full of conspiracy theories about the banks, Fed, EU, and the Western World in general. On the other hand, whatever Russia or China does, especially militarily, is great and shows good leadership. Even this article starts by accusing the Fed multiple times of not noticing the fraudulent wire transfers, when in fact towards the end they say that the feds stopped 90% of the fraudulent transfers an…

> whatever Russia or China does, especially militarily, is great and shows good leadership.

I submit the 'China' category page as a counter-argument: http://www.zerohedge.com/taxonomy/term/139

If you just want one recent story, here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-10/world-economy-wreck...

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

#54

If the funds were sent to casinos, shouldn't the casinos have logs of what the money was used for?

unlikely. The best way to legally launder money is to use a casino. You bring in your dirty money, exchange it for chips. Then sit on your chips for a week, maybe a month, then go back and cash out your chips for clean money. Meanwhile, all the cash you moved through the casino is now scattered to some 50-100 different banks as it gets deposited in their daily drops and then transferred as necessary between the banks…

But I don't understand something.

You showed up with lets say $50k at the casino, you departed with the same $50k. If you'll be investigated, you still can't justify the money you walked in with.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thirded. ZeroHedge is full of conspiracy theories about the banks, Fed, EU, and the Western World in general. On the other hand, whatever Russia or China does, especially militarily, is great and shows good leadership. Even this article starts by accusing the Fed multiple times of not noticing the fraudulent wire transfers, when in fact towards the end they say that the feds stopped 90% of the fraudulent transfers an…

> whatever Russia or China does, especially militarily, is great and shows good leadership. I submit the 'China' category page as a counter-argument: http://www.zerohedge.com/taxonomy/term/139 If you just want one recent story, here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-10/world-economy-wreck...

Yes, they do criticize China when they "blatantly props up the market" as ZH would say, but only because it would stink too hard to not say anything when the credo of ZH is that "governments manipulate markets and thats a bad thing".

But if you read the articles, you'll see that ZH has a very favorable opinion of China, especially when it provokes the US, like the current situation in the Spratly islands

However Russia, I never ever saw a bad article about them, or especially about Vlad, which is the current ZH hero.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

#56
First job out of college was at JP Morgan treasury division. Was surprised when working on SWIFT system I had read so much about, it was literally just a fax to TIFF system. Basically just an image viewer.

At the time, 10 years ago, we didn't even have ability to parse or OCR the images. I was really disappointed in how low tech this was, and how easy it would have been to make it better.

Perhaps I only saw a piece of it, and it did have more going on. But I always thought "what's preventing someone from faxing in a false trade?" We would execute any trade that got faxed in if the letter head and account numbers looked normal.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

#57

I would be all for banning submissions from zerohedge.com outright. It's just noise that makes it harder for me to skim headlines for actual content.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I feel the same way about Vice. Its not news, its entertainment. And when you can't disambiguate the two, its fucking dangerous.

"The News" exists as a genre because it is entertaining, and this has been true literally since the inception of mass media with the printing press.

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unlikely. The best way to legally launder money is to use a casino. You bring in your dirty money, exchange it for chips. Then sit on your chips for a week, maybe a month, then go back and cash out your chips for clean money. Meanwhile, all the cash you moved through the casino is now scattered to some 50-100 different banks as it gets deposited in their daily drops and then transferred as necessary between the banks…

But I don't understand something. You showed up with lets say $50k at the casino, you departed with the same $50k. If you'll be investigated, you still can't justify the money you walked in with.

Can you claim it as winnings? Do these casinos issue receipts?

Re: How Hackers Stole $100M from the New York Fed

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I find ZH amusing.. In some ways I think it's the anti hackers news.. Hyper negative about the future.. Constant hate for new tech.. (Fear of skynet).. The system is always rigged and the little guy will never succeed... Posts by Right coast angry ex-traders.. The comments are inane...the cherry picked stories out of left field but plausible. Etc. The one place the two sites do often intersect is the fear and loathing of government surveillance.. I vote to give ZH stories a fair shake...
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