Playing “Moneyball” on EA FIFA 16

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Post by brewdad » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:53 PM UTC

Playing “Moneyball” on EA FIFA 16
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Re: Playing “Moneyball” on EA FIFA 16

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Post by foldor » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:17 PM UTC

Awesome write up, but one thing I'm wondering, since I don't play FIFA, does the game heavily weight victory in favor of the player? I have to imagine the game would do that in order to make players happy, and if they do it would confuse the numbers here.

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Post by tdees40 » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:55 PM UTC

I often played FIFA on my phone, and the trick was just to hire to best possible scout and then constantly send him out, and your team would be unstoppable pretty quickly. Scouts found outrageously good players with unrealistic frequency.

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Post by sinatra » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 10:02 PM UTC

Consider doing this "Moneyball" experiment using Football Manager [1] games. Those games are made for soccer/football management simulation. And your "Moneyball" kind of playthrough is called LLM (Lower League Management) in the FM community.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager

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Post by kelvintran » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 10:28 PM UTC

Interesting that EA distributes importance of skill differently for right and left sided players (eg, passing 57% for right mids, and 41% for left mids, while dribbling is more important for left mids than right mids (54% v 38%)).

Might reflect impact of actual players (Robben being a right-sided left footed impact winger).

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Post by 89vision » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 10:46 PM UTC

sinatra wrote: post #4

Consider doing this "Moneyball" experiment using Football Manager [1] games. Those games are made for soccer/football management simulation. And your "Moneyball" kind of playthrough is called LLM (Lower League Management) in the FM community. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Manager

I love this game despite it being the ultimate time suck.

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Post by Eremotherium » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 10:50 PM UTC

You're using math. That's cheating!

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Post by spongerbakula » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 11:03 PM UTC

As a fellow Fifa junkie, this is a really interesting article, and definitely going to impact my trades.

If you ever play online my handle is "spongerbakula"

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 11:11 PM UTC

As interesting as it is to run a few regressions... in all honesty, it's pretty easy to take the shittiest team in the game to win the CL in a few seasons. It's pretty much my standard playthrough every year, when losing 0 games in a few seasons in a row on the top difficulty gets boring.

Multiplayer is where the challenge is at, the AI is tons of fun but if you've played football games for a while they're not too hard.

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Post by dsugarman » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 11:14 PM UTC

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #9

As interesting as it is to run a few regressions... in all honesty, it's pretty easy to take the shittiest team in the game to win the CL in a few seasons. It's pretty much my standard playthrough every year, when losing 0 games in a few seasons in a row on the top difficulty gets boring. Multiplayer is where the challenge is at, the AI is tons of fun but if you've played football games for a while they're not too ha…

he simulated all of the games, this was all about management