Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux

Post by nl » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 10:49 AM UTC

cyphar wrote: post #87

nl wrote: post #72

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Because that's what software defined networking is (mostly) about. In the majority of cases it's used as a way to setup a network plane for virtualized hosts. Edit: See for example why VMWare bought Nicira: http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/23/vmware-buys-nicira-for-1-26...

I'm not a BSD guy, but I can still see it's a little unfair to compare the network throughputs of Linux and *BSD as guest VMs on a Linux host running KVM. You aren't going to get good throughout in that case without hardware passthrough (even then it's still bad). End of story.

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 11:34 AM UTC

cyphar wrote: post #86

mankash666 wrote: post #6

Why Linux? The networking stack on BSD is superior, and the OS places no copyleft restrictions! I'm starting to believe that developers choose OS/Tools the are used to (Linux in this case) versus the one best suited for the job (BSD)

> ... and the OS places no copyleft restrictions! I'm still baffled why people think this is a benefit. If you actually care about software freedom, lack of copyleft is a bad thing IMO. What's to stop $EvilCorp from creating a system that is completely locked down, can't be replaced, and is based on your technology? That's what UEFI is, by the way. It's only by Microsoft's blessing that you can install alternative op…

Post by wmccullough » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 12:18 PM UTC

Piskvorrr wrote: post #93

tallanvor wrote: post #92

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Not really. I'd say it's more that Skype on Linux isn't a priority for them. They have it on Windows, Mac, Android, and iOS... And if you think it's user-hostile for MS to not continue development of Skype on Linux, don't you have to agree that Instagram, Snapchat, and all the other app developers that don't release apps for Windows Phone are user-hostile as well?

There's a difference between "let's not start a port of Y at all" and "start degrading experience on an existing port of Z." (See? "MS is completely pro-Linux (where completely excludes anything that contradicts this, leading to a nice circular definition)" - that's as no-true-scotsman as you can get)

Post by Piskvorrr » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 12:23 PM UTC

wmccullough wrote: post #105

Piskvorrr wrote: post #93

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There's a difference between "let's not start a port of Y at all" and "start degrading experience on an existing port of Z." (See? "MS is completely pro-Linux (where completely excludes anything that contradicts this, leading to a nice circular definition)" - that's as no-true-scotsman as you can get)

You are very clearly grabbing at straws here. This isn't some nefarious tinfoil hat plot. I honestly suspect their focus is truly being spent elsewhere.

Post by baldfat » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 12:38 PM UTC

click170 wrote: post #53

harry8 wrote: post #45

I imagine anything Microsoft releases that could possibly have gpl software, such as the linux kernel in it will have the most aggressive search for violation of any software ever. Memories are long and that distrust is not going away any time soon.

Frankly the knife cuts both ways. Microsoft has a long way to go before they get the benefit of the doubt from me due to their decades of Embracing Extending and Extinguishing.