Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

#1

Post by vermilingua » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:14 AM UTC

Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker
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Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

#2

Post by yev » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:38 AM UTC

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by akerro » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:42 AM UTC

yev wrote: post #2

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

I stopped using at least 4 websites which I followed for years just because they tried to enforce on me turning off PrivacyBadger and uBlock. It will hurt only you in long term. It's more important for me to use my browser then you website that doesn't respect my choices.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by reasonality » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:42 AM UTC

yev wrote: post #2

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

Or just hide and obfuscate the ads better.

Getting past ad-blockers isn't exactly rocket science. This is an arms race which will not end well.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by reasonality » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:44 AM UTC

akerro wrote: post #3

yev wrote: post #2

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

I stopped using at least 4 websites which I followed for years just because they tried to enforce on me turning off PrivacyBadger and uBlock. It will hurt only you in long term. It's more important for me to use my browser then you website that doesn't respect my choices.

How does it hurt them?

You stopped leeching their bandwidth without any opportunity for them to earn any ad revenue from them!

Allowing leeches on your website doesn't seem that beneficial.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by hathym » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:44 AM UTC

yev wrote: post #2

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

forbes did it, look what happened.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by akerro » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:55 AM UTC

reasonality wrote: post #5

akerro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stopped using at least 4 websites which I followed for years just because they tried to enforce on me turning off PrivacyBadger and uBlock. It will hurt only you in long term. It's more important for me to use my browser then you website that doesn't respect my choices.

How does it hurt them? You stopped leeching their bandwidth without any opportunity for them to earn any ad revenue from them! Allowing leeches on your website doesn't seem that beneficial.

>You stopped leeching their bandwidth without any opportunity for them to earn any ad revenue from them!

I stopped adding comments, starting discussions, I allow some non-intrusive ads when I enable them, I have quite extensive whitelist in ublock.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by jinst8gmi » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:55 AM UTC

reasonality wrote: post #5

akerro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stopped using at least 4 websites which I followed for years just because they tried to enforce on me turning off PrivacyBadger and uBlock. It will hurt only you in long term. It's more important for me to use my browser then you website that doesn't respect my choices.

How does it hurt them? You stopped leeching their bandwidth without any opportunity for them to earn any ad revenue from them! Allowing leeches on your website doesn't seem that beneficial.

A site which eventually has no visitors will become irrelevant. Those with ad blockers will also often share links to said site which others without ad blockers will click on. If you block me on your website there are many others who will no longer be clicking through via the links I would otherwise have shared.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by jinst8gmi » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:58 AM UTC

yev wrote: post #2

if ((!!window.opr && !!opr.addons) || !!window.opera || navigator.userAgent.indexOf(' OPR/') >= 0) { throw alert('your browser is not supported'); }

Nothing an in-place edit of the page source can't remove or a fake user-agent string can't work around.

Re: Opera Browser adds integrated adblocker

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Post by moonchrome » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 9:58 AM UTC

reasonality wrote: post #5

akerro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stopped using at least 4 websites which I followed for years just because they tried to enforce on me turning off PrivacyBadger and uBlock. It will hurt only you in long term. It's more important for me to use my browser then you website that doesn't respect my choices.

How does it hurt them? You stopped leeching their bandwidth without any opportunity for them to earn any ad revenue from them! Allowing leeches on your website doesn't seem that beneficial.

Let's say two sites, A and B host similar content.

The end user cannot see some content on site A because of adblock detection but he can see it on site B, he down votes the link of site A on sharing networks, he asks for a policy banning or advocates against linking to site A because content can be found on B.

I've seen this play out many times, and at that point you're not just losing traffic from ad block clients you're losing traffic overall, have people actively promote your competitors and earn a bad rep (and that rep might not even be objective - in general if people remember anything it will be "don't use A" not the "why" of it)