AlphaGo beats Lee Sedol again in match 2 of 5

Post by ljk » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:43 AM UTC

kelukelugames wrote: post #17

0x777 wrote: post #11

Lee Sedol seemed to be doing well before he went into extra time (as far as I could follow from the commentators). How is it ensured that this is a fair game given the time constraints? I'm guessing adding more computing power to the AlphaGo program should definitely help it in this regard.

Jeopardy had the same complaints against Deep Blue. The machine was buzzing too fast. Humans knew the answers too but just couldn't buzz in.

Post by 0x777 » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:44 AM UTC

zodiac wrote: post #14

0x777 wrote: post #11

Lee Sedol seemed to be doing well before he went into extra time (as far as I could follow from the commentators). How is it ensured that this is a fair game given the time constraints? I'm guessing adding more computing power to the AlphaGo program should definitely help it in this regard.

> How is it ensured that this is a fair game given the time constraints? Both players get the same time controls, seems fair to me But if you're saying humans might fare better against computers in a game with a longer time control, I suspect that's true

Post by IvyMike » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:44 AM UTC

Post by thomasahle » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:45 AM UTC

dwaltrip wrote: post #10

mixedmath wrote: post #9

This game was largely played extremely well by both sides. There were a a few peculiar-seeming moves made by AlphaGo that the commentator found very atypical. These moves ended up playing a very important role in the end game. I should also say that it's somewhat clear that Sedol made one suboptimal move, and AlphaGo capitalized on it. Interestingly, the English commentator made the same mistake as he was predicting…

Center evaluation is hard for humans, but not for bots, it seems.

Post by thomasahle » Thu, Mar 10, 2016, 8:47 AM UTC

21 wrote: post #15

0x777 wrote: post #11

Lee Sedol seemed to be doing well before he went into extra time (as far as I could follow from the commentators). How is it ensured that this is a fair game given the time constraints? I'm guessing adding more computing power to the AlphaGo program should definitely help it in this regard.

Well, I think the last time computers played the world chess champion (in 2006), they didn't allow the computer to think on the human time! And you can always give the computer less time than the human, but this just shows that it's stronger than you and you need to handicap it to have a chance.