The stuff you learn in business is more supplemental material for the stuff you learn in the more hard sciences like engineering. You may have built the best product, but without marketing, accounting, and operations, the product still might not succeed in the market. With that said, I think business school courses should be taken on the side to the primary engineering courses as that provides the most well rounded e…
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#52For a different point of view. Coming from an engineering background, I sat in on an entrepreneurship class at UChicago Booth and I was totally blown away. The angle was completely different. The previous class the students were all given the details about hypothetical ventures with some background on the market and they were asked to say whether they would invest or not invest should such a proposal cross their desk…
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#53I dated a finance major (in the undergrad business school) for two years when I was at Georgetown. My impression of her classes was the same - that they were training, not education, and intellectually void. That said, she's now a successful analyst at Merrill, so she must have gotten something out of it.
Depends what you mean by "something," I suppose. Pedigree and pathway, sure. Knowledge and real training? That's the issue being discussed here.
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#54An undergraduate degree in this country teaches you how to become a worker bee. If you like being a worker bee, getting a decent(?) salary, taking 2 weeks and then later in life maybe 6 weeks vacation, by all means study business, marketing, etc. Otherwise, get educated. "Self education is, I firmly believe, the only kid of education there is." -Isaac Asimov If only we could have a few more people every year become f…
Didn't Asimov do an advanced degree in chemistry?
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#55I often wonder whether formal education in business would have helped me, or hindered me.
I'm certain the structured information contained in a structured business course would have been useful.
At the same time, when I was starting out, I did a lot of things that no reasonable educational institution would advocate just to get through the month and make payday. During all of this, I was reading and learning as fast as I could about all of the numerous knowledge gaps I began to realise I had, as I came up against various walls.
After years of experience in running a business, when I read books about business/sales/marketing/economics, it's far easier to process and understand the theory.
I think any kind of education about business is valuable, but I also think it's 10 times more valuable if you have some kind of real-life experience to which you can map the theory.
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#57Overall, the best value is the access to investor, entrepreneur and industry networks, the ability to meet other entrepreneurial students, and to receive advice from some of the best entrepreneurs in the industry.
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#58Currently a MBA student at Stanford Graduate School of Business, I'm also bootstrapping a startup with two CS graduate students and a seasoned designer. As an entrepreneur, I can definitely speak for the benefits that Stanford GSB provides: (1) The Stanford and Stanford GSB networks are both phenomenal. Alumni are very accessible and connected with the school. Classmates are highly collaborative and bring contacts fr…
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends what you mean by "something," I suppose. Pedigree and pathway, sure. Knowledge and real training? That's the issue being discussed here.
Pedigree and pathway would get her hired, but not make her successful. She got 5/5 ratings in her recent reviews.
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#60I enrolled in undergrad at Boston University as a Computer Systems and Physics major. After two horrible years of all-nighters and poor grades, I came to the realization that I didn't even like the jobs I would be lined up for (this was shortly after the dot com bubble burst) or the people I was going to be working with.
So I left the major and completed my degree from tiny Ithaca College as an Integrated Marketing Communications major.
Now, after a few years in the professional world as an ad exec, I'm pursuing my MBA from Boston College.
So coming from a mix engineer/marketing background, I can say that business school as a whole plays it far too safe. They dumb down the math requirements, and they don't push the "soft skills" enough either. Our "soft skills" class was treated pretty universally as a joke, and yet I didn't leave my corporate finance class feeling any more knowledgeable in that area either.
After a recent trip to Palo Alto, I have been dreaming about the opportunities that would be in front of me if I had pursued my MBA at Stanford, instead of taking the easy way out to Boston College. But in reality, I find the true value in b-school to be from your fellow classmates, network of alumni, and time you spend actually thinking about business.
Let me elaborate a little on that last point. This is the first time in my (short) career I've been able to read articles, discuss them with professors, and spend time critiquing existing business models. While this time spent won't show up on any transcripts, I think it will be invaluable to my future prospects.
I'll cut this comment short - but I encourage all to evaluate both the student body and the network of alumni before choosing a b-school. These are easily the two strongest aspects of the education you will take away afterwards.
all the best, jeff vincent