I always thought that Microsoft was blocked from getting into Linux by the terms of their sale of Xenix.
Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
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Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
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In what ways is the BSD networking stack superior?
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
I've seen this claim before, but I've also seen the counterclaim that Linux network stacks have since caught up and even surpassed the BSDs on throughput and latency.
Whether one or the other is truly better though might be irrelevant...either is such a monumental improvement over the windows networking stack that there are bound to be large benefits.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what ways is the BSD networking stack superior?
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
This is an OS for the control plane for hardware switches, so its throughput is not that important. Hardware does most of the heavy lifting.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what ways is the BSD networking stack superior?
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
Had mediocre network performance and increased load with freebsd on VMs (kvm), while at the same time a linux one would saturate a whole link.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
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Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
This is an OS for the control plane for hardware switches, so its throughput is not that important. Hardware does most of the heavy lifting.
I understand this, but was answering the question (in general) about why I believe BSD has better networking.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#27I always thought that Microsoft was blocked from getting into Linux by the terms of their sale of Xenix.
In 2012, Microsoft was a significant contributor to Linux[1]. This was mostly because of Hyper-V.
So, if/when it suits them, Microsoft are all over Linux
[1]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/16/linux_foundation_ker...
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#28I thought they already did, and it was called RHEL. I guess that's not Debian.
What's the connection between RHEL and Microsoft? Azure seems to have focussed on Ubuntu first, so I'm not surprised they lean closer to a Debian base.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
Had mediocre network performance and increased load with freebsd on VMs (kvm), while at the same time a linux one would saturate a whole link.
Why are you trying to get network throughput on a VM? Of course it's going to be slow, but KVM probably has some passthrough optimisations for Linux guests.
Re: Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what ways is the BSD networking stack superior?
Throughput. The BSD networking stack has been very carefully engineered over time. Linux is OK, but nowhere near as robust. FreeBSD is legendary for load tolerance and network throughput, that on equal machines would choke a Linux server. Seen it, work(ed) with it. When we do something serious that requires heavy load and awesome throughput, we always lean on FreeBSD, never anything else. Everything else has always l…
Not that I really doubt you (the FreeBSD developers have a hard won and worthy reputation in this area!) but do you have any benchmarks that help back this claim?
I promise this isn't a question to try to make a point, I'm genuinely interested.