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* For personal use, or organizationally for academic purposes, classroom learning and open source projects only. Or if your company has https://www.visualstudio.com/support/legal/mt171547
Correct, CE version has restrictions. It's great for checking out RTVS to decide if you want to upgrade to Pro/Enterprise.
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Oh please. I do that 20x a day without R Studio. Saving a chart is as simple as png(...). You are clearly too mouse-bound. I reject your comment out of hand.
Why save it at all when in RStudio you can skip that step. Doesn't have anything to do with a mouse either because you still write and execute all the code with the keyboard. This all seems very out of left field.
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Oh please. I do that 20x a day without R Studio. Saving a chart is as simple as png(...). You are clearly too mouse-bound. I reject your comment out of hand.
Why save it at all when in RStudio you can skip that step. Doesn't have anything to do with a mouse either because you still write and execute all the code with the keyboard. This all seems very out of left field.
> plot(rnorm(100))
Now IDEs are useful, if you understand the tradeoffs. They're a higher-level wrapper on stuff, with all the pluses and minuses that that entails. Higher-level = lower learning curve, greater immediate productivity, vs lower-level = higher learning curve, lower immediate productivity but greater long term power.
Hi folks - Last year we polled HN on whether there'd be interest in R integration in Visual Studio. You said "YES!", so here it is! I'll be around in case you have any questions. BTW RTVS was built by the same group that made PTVS (Python Tools for VS) and NTVS (Node.js Tools for VS). RTVS will also be free & open source of course. Cheers
I welcome RTVS, but as an Rstudio user, I am now curious about what things are _substantially_ different between the two. They're, at least superficially, very similar. In other words, why would an Rstudio user consider a switch to RTVS?
* Multi-lingual: projects w C#, Python, SQL, etc.
* Multi-line repl: recall/edit/submit chunks of code
* Lots of add-ins: like 6,000 (hopefully a few are useful for R!)
* Upcoming integration w Excel, Azure ML, SQL, etc.
* etc.
If you are already a VS user, checking out RTVS is a no brainer.
But in summary, RStudio is better :). Hopefully we'll have some key differentiation features in upcoming releases.
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Correct, CE version has restrictions. It's great for checking out RTVS to decide if you want to upgrade to Pro/Enterprise.
Which kind of defeats the fact that RVTS is free and open source, but is still fundamentally understandable in terms of Microsoft's strategy in this area.
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> R is best used unfiltered Actually, no it's not. One of R's strengths is its ability to manipulate data and then visualise the output. Doing this via the command line is slow and cumbersome. Do you plan to output a chart, save it, then open it with another application? RStudio excels in not just being an IDE, but also a visual data representation tool. Write the R code, view the chart in the same application (Rstud…
Oh please. I do that 20x a day without R Studio. Saving a chart is as simple as png(...). You are clearly too mouse-bound. I reject your comment out of hand.
Funny, I always thought personal computing not being about strict protocol but more like freestyle guitar playing where individual styles are not as important as the results of the techniques.
Why not Visual Studio Code?
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There are no such plans. But we have VS Code, which is great lighter weight IDE that's cross platform. Check it out here: https://code.visualstudio.com/ It has great support for js, node, go, .net etc. already. We'll hopefully add Python & R support soon.
I've heard a great number of rumors regarding bringing Visual Studio (full) to Mac OS X and Linux. Many from Microsoft folks. Not saying they have to be true but I should be shocked if it wasn't at least being researched and looked at.