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C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#102
post #35

The blade servers at Delimiter ( https://www.delimiter.com/ ) are even more affordable. I pay $20 a month for a dual Xeon blade with 16gb of ram. They did have a very long downtime this year with no service credit, but uptime has been reasonable over the past year. If you're looking for a hobby box it's a pretty good deal.

I got super excited at first, but then... The servers are based on: http://ark.intel.com/products/33927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E54... and http://ark.intel.com/products/47927/Intel-Xeon-Processor-L56... These are super ancient. If you're looking for affordable north american servers, OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware. They've got a data center in Canada and will give you American IPs from t…

I'm running a pair of L5639's in my main server. Perfectly usable. Yes, the cores are relatively slow, but you get plenty of them.

> OVH has the Kimsufi outlet which is cheaper and better hardware

I see one dual socket Westmere Xeon that's actually slower than the two you're complaining about (1/3rd as much cache, 5-20% slower clock), and a bunch of similarly ancient consumer-level junk.

I even spy an i7 920 in there. A 2008 first-gen Nehalem. That's a 130W CPU with terrible power management, how on Earth is that economical for them to deploy?!

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#103
post #17

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Well, that is the whole point, you are suppose to have a whole bunch of small, inexpensive, power efficient, cores. If the software you normally use doesn't take advantage of, at least, multi core hardware, then you can obtain more value from other hosting provider... On the other hand if your software can takes advantages of multicore hardware, or -- even better -- multi node architecture, then scaleway is likely th…

Nearly no web framework is per request multi core (e.g. multi core HTML / JSON rendering, assuming backend operations already async). So each request will be slow. [Edit:] Not sure for the downvote, would be interested what's wrong in my comment.

Go's net/http framework uses a go routine per connection.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#104
I've been very pleased with http://packet.net and their typo 0 server. It's bare metal, but much more performant than here. They have an amazing network, it's by the hour, and it's Also they're based in the US, so less latency for those of us with primary customer bases here. We use them at DNSFilter in NYC as part of our anycast network, for the last two months. Looking forward to their San Jose and Amsterdam datacenter expansions coming soon.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#105
post #91
post #8

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That's what scares me a bit. The multi-core performance is great (considering their pricing), but single-threaded performance is quite a bit below what the competition gets you. If you're running a web server with something single-threaded (like PHP) requests might start taking a bit longer than you're used to.

How much time are you spending in php per request? I would think the time spent in PHP per request would be low compared to network latency and io.

Most languages yes not PHP.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#106

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I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

Just for the lulz, here is nbench running on my Asus Chromebook Flip.

    ==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================
    CPU                 : 4 CPU ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l)
    L2 Cache            : 
    OS                  : Linux 3.14.0
    C compiler          : gcc version 5.2.1 20151028 (Debian 5.2.1-23) 
    libc                : libc-2.21.so
    MEMORY INDEX        : 15.111
    INTEGER INDEX       : 14.374
    FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 18.785

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#107
post #87

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I don't think there's much to compare there. Hetzner's servers are a completely different price range. Unless you get a used one here: https://robot.your-server.de/order/market (URL looks suspicious, but it's Hetzner, I promise). These are servers that are fairly old and out-dated and whose users have discontinued their contracts; now they're being auctioned off so Hetzner doesn't have to throw them out. But these, I…

Hetzner has cheap VPSs: https://www.hetzner.de/de/hosting/produkte_vserver/cx30

I know, but the parent comment was explicitly asking about root servers; I agree, though, that I should've mentioned these, as they fit more into the price range (and I imagine they're quite good, as I've mostly heard positive things about Hetzner).

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#108
post #65

unlimited bandwidth. Is that for real? 300 Mbits. Let's assume you can pump out 100 Mbit sustained. That is about 10 MB/s. or 26,000,000 Megabytes/month. 26,000 GB / month. AWS & google cloud are about $.10/GB. That'd cost 2600 USD to serve. Scaleway claims that'd cost just 12 euro. For realz?

Their mother company (Online/Iliad/Free) does this to balance out their incoming/outgoing traffic in order to avoid to pay for transit, which is why they provide these services at/near cost.

nope, our network (Online.net/Scaleway) is AS12876, Free/Iliad is AS12322 neither of them reannounce the other AS to the internet, they are both independant and separated

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#109
post #104

I've been very pleased with http://packet.net and their typo 0 server. It's bare metal, but much more performant than here. They have an amazing network, it's by the hour, and it's Also they're based in the US, so less latency for those of us with primary customer bases here. We use them at DNSFilter in NYC as part of our anycast network, for the last two months. Looking forward to their San Jose and Amsterdam datace…

Can you do custom iso install?

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#110
post #104

I've been very pleased with http://packet.net and their typo 0 server. It's bare metal, but much more performant than here. They have an amazing network, it's by the hour, and it's Also they're based in the US, so less latency for those of us with primary customer bases here. We use them at DNSFilter in NYC as part of our anycast network, for the last two months. Looking forward to their San Jose and Amsterdam datace…

Free data in? (Like AWS)
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