AlphaGo beats the world champion Lee Sedol in first of five matches

Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 9:35 AM UTC

esturk wrote: post #24

sethbannon wrote: post #7

I was at the 2003 match of Garry Kasparov vs Deep Junior -- the strongest chess player of all time vs what was at that point the strongest chess playing computer in history. Kasparov drew that match, but it was clear it was the last stand of homo sapiens in the man vs machine chess battle. Back then, people took solace in the game of Go. Many boldly and confidently predicted we wouldn't see a computer beat the Go wor…

I've never felt playing against what is suppose to be an entire room of machines (wether Deep Blue or Watson) to be fair. What would be fair is to limit the total mass of the computer to say 200kg and leave it at that. What is effectively happening is AlphaGo is running on a distributed system of many, many machines. Even Watson took an entire room. Google is paying a premium to push AlphaGo to win.

Post by lololomg » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 9:38 AM UTC

awwducks wrote: post #21

dwaltrip wrote: post #8

This is my generation's Gary Kasparov vs. Deep Blue. In many ways, it is more significant. Several top commentators were saying how AlphaGo has improved noticeably since October. AlphaGo's victory tonight marks the moment that go is no longer a human dominated contest. It was a very exciting game, incredible level of play. I really enjoyed watching it live with the expert commentary. I recommend the AGA youtube chann…

Yep, terrific commentary by Myungwan Kim 9p on the AGA channel. For the folks who aren't as familiar with the game, how did you find the commentary (for any channel)? What would you be interested in hearing for events like these?

Post by DavidSJ » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 9:43 AM UTC

Fede_V wrote: post #93

Eliezer wrote: post #75

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In case you're not aware, AlphaGo's key component is based on the same type of Deepmind system that learned to play dozens of Atari games, to superhuman levels, by watching the pixels, without any programmatic adaptation to the particular Atari game. At least the version of AlphaGo that played in October was far less specialized for Go than Deep Blue was for chess. Demis Hassabis says that next up after this is getti…

That's incorrect. The features that AlphaGo uses are not pixel level features, but board states - and the architecture between AlphaGo and the Atari network is completely different. It's still an incredibly achievement - but it's important to be accurate.

Post by jonah » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 9:47 AM UTC

Radim wrote: post #134

awwducks wrote: post #21

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Yep, terrific commentary by Myungwan Kim 9p on the AGA channel. For the folks who aren't as familiar with the game, how did you find the commentary (for any channel)? What would you be interested in hearing for events like these?

I don't think AGA had the rights to stream and comment this match. Where did you find this 9p AGA commentary? I don't see it in the list of AGA videos on youtube.

Post by Confusion » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 9:48 AM UTC

esturk wrote: post #24

sethbannon wrote: post #7

I was at the 2003 match of Garry Kasparov vs Deep Junior -- the strongest chess player of all time vs what was at that point the strongest chess playing computer in history. Kasparov drew that match, but it was clear it was the last stand of homo sapiens in the man vs machine chess battle. Back then, people took solace in the game of Go. Many boldly and confidently predicted we wouldn't see a computer beat the Go wor…

I've never felt playing against what is suppose to be an entire room of machines (wether Deep Blue or Watson) to be fair. What would be fair is to limit the total mass of the computer to say 200kg and leave it at that. What is effectively happening is AlphaGo is running on a distributed system of many, many machines. Even Watson took an entire room. Google is paying a premium to push AlphaGo to win.