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Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by fizgig »

atomical wrote: post #31
garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

Bulletproof coffee is a scam.

It's a modern take on Tibetan butter tea. Sure, the Bulletproof-branded stuff is high-priced snake oil, but there does seem to be a historically recognized synergy with the primary constituents of the beverage.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by bcheung »

_0w8t wrote: post #34
garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

This does not explain how people in rural China that eat mostly carbs with very little fat and consume 25% calories more per body mass than westerners have noticeably less rates of most cancers. Only their rate for stomach cancer is significantly elevated compared with Western levels.

Lots of other factors that are different between urban and rural living. Better air quality, getting more sun, more sleep, less stress, more exercise.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by _0w8t »

personjerry wrote: post #56
_0w8t wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does not explain how people in rural China that eat mostly carbs with very little fat and consume 25% calories more per body mass than westerners have noticeably less rates of most cancers. Only their rate for stomach cancer is significantly elevated compared with Western levels.

Do you have a citation for this?

See http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/food-in-china-vari...

- it discuss results of studies in China from 1980-1990 that showed that regions in China where people consumed pretty much all calories from rice or vegetables or those where people do eat a lot of meat have similar cancer rates making highly problematic any claim that excessive carbo is associated with increased cancer risk.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by trhway »

garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

>The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer.

another obvious related conclusion is to couple it with good oxygenation (ie. physical workout, etc..) as low carb/glucose with good oxygenation would provide enough energy for healthy cells where is cancer cells would be starving.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by trhway »

fizgig wrote: post #61
atomical wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bulletproof coffee is a scam.

It's a modern take on Tibetan butter tea. Sure, the Bulletproof-branded stuff is high-priced snake oil, but there does seem to be a historically recognized synergy with the primary constituents of the beverage.

>historically recognized synergy with the primary constituents

hot coffee or tea with bagel with thick layer of good quality, ie. high fat, butter on it. In poor student times - replace bagel with black rye bread and butter with piece of salted pork fat. The same synergy hits the same spot :)

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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tosseraccount wrote: post #37
garyclarke27 wrote: post #26

A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…

"A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers" I am curious. Do you have a link to this proof?

to all the people wasting comments' space and people's attention with pointless [even more so when they are trying to make a point by making such a request] requests for links - there is Google for that.

For example : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21673053 and NIH has a lot of other similar stuff if you're really curious.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by jwdunne »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #59
petegrif wrote: post #52

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It can scarcely be described as coffee. To my taste it is an unspeakably vile tasting concoction.

I didn't mind it... but MCT oil has the same effect on my digestive system as eating a pound of sugar free haribo gummy bears.

I found it a good offset against keto-constipation.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by jwdunne »

CommanderData wrote: post #6

Very interesting. What does this mean for low carb, high protein diets heavily promoted these days (Keto)? Reminds me of this talk on TED - William Li, Anti-Angiogenesis therapy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkzfeJz66o Does this research mean these diets and therapies are less effective than previously thought?

No to high protein. Too much protein gets converted into glucose, kinda defeating the purpose.

Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by [deleted] »

trhway wrote: post #66
tosseraccount wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers" I am curious. Do you have a link to this proof?

to all the people wasting comments' space and people's attention with pointless [even more so when they are trying to make a point by making such a request] requests for links - there is Google for that. For example : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21673053 and NIH has a lot of other similar stuff if you're really curious.

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Re: How cancer cells fuel their growth

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Post by tosseraccount »

trhway wrote: post #66
tosseraccount wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers" I am curious. Do you have a link to this proof?

to all the people wasting comments' space and people's attention with pointless [even more so when they are trying to make a point by making such a request] requests for links - there is Google for that. For example : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21673053 and NIH has a lot of other similar stuff if you're really curious.

"Although our work strongly suggests that cancer can be treated and/or prevented by limiting BG, some caution must be exercised in extrapolating our results to humans."

"potential of being both a novel cancer prophylactic and treatment, warranting further investigation of its applicability"

This is solid work, but the authors are shying away from claiming a proof. Indeed, simple Xenograft experiments in genetically modified mouse models, as the researchers conducted, do not always prove a concept.

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