Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account • Hacker News Board

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by javifr » Mon, Feb 29, 2016, 11:54 AM UTC

jrperina wrote: post #164

losvedir wrote: post #112

I have a proposal. I'll give all the transactional email competitors (mailgun, postmark, sparkpost, etc) a week to get their shit together and come up with a migration proposal for all of us moving away from Mandrill. I'm sure they're scrambling around trying to figure out how to take advantage of this ridiculous situation, and I bet a bunch of them are on HN. So how about this: 1. Any HN user trying to figure out wh…

Hi this is Joshua Perina, CEO of Elastic Email. http://elasticemail.com has a very simliar pricing structure to Mandrill (their old pricing) including 25000 emails per month free. We've been around since 2010, are growing fast and have sent billions of emails. Plus, we love our customers. Mandrill refugees are welcome!

We are using actually on my company Mandrill and Elastic Email and, given this mandrill change, are migrating from both services to a new one.

Elastic Email has been buggy for us since day one. The whole hooks system is very buggy and has cause serious damage to our image with some clients.

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by ozziekh » Mon, Feb 29, 2016, 6:35 PM UTC

techdragon wrote: post #82

dancablam wrote: post #39

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FWIW We're switching to Sparkpost (I'm not affiliated with Sparkpost). They do the transactional email for the big dogs like Twitter, PayPal, LinkedIn, etc and have a pretty simple UI. Just throwing that out there for all the fellow Mandrill refugees.

I just checked out Sparkpost, and unfortunately, they seem to have a crippling price discrepancy. Their new "express" plan is sort of comparable to what Mandrill charged, but as soon as I grow to the point where I need more, they are x3 the price. Not sure what they were thinking with that sort of thing, are they trying to discourage customers from growing their email volume on the platform? I find this sort of "nons…

they have changed their pricing plans, you can check it here https://www.sparkpost.com/pricing

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by true_religion » Tue, Mar 01, 2016, 4:26 PM UTC

jrperina wrote: post #164

losvedir wrote: post #112

I have a proposal. I'll give all the transactional email competitors (mailgun, postmark, sparkpost, etc) a week to get their shit together and come up with a migration proposal for all of us moving away from Mandrill. I'm sure they're scrambling around trying to figure out how to take advantage of this ridiculous situation, and I bet a bunch of them are on HN. So how about this: 1. Any HN user trying to figure out wh…

Hi this is Joshua Perina, CEO of Elastic Email. http://elasticemail.com has a very simliar pricing structure to Mandrill (their old pricing) including 25000 emails per month free. We've been around since 2010, are growing fast and have sent billions of emails. Plus, we love our customers. Mandrill refugees are welcome!

I think if you're Amazon you can get away with barebones web design.

But for a service like yours, I need a lot more oompf in your documentation, sales pitch, or UX to know that it's not a thin layer of SES.

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by quadrant6 » Thu, Mar 03, 2016, 3:43 AM UTC

We have Mandrill implemented in a lot of past projects and can't easily switch now. We'll get the mandatory MC account there, while screaming F U to them.

What we can and will do is dissuade all future clients from using Mailchimp.

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by ma1069 » Thu, Mar 03, 2016, 9:36 AM UTC

spronkey wrote: post #160

manidoraisamy wrote: post #114

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"your Subscribers' email address, credit card information, purchase history" - These are super sensitive! It takes more than 3 months of legal process and convincing to get our customers to share these under strict data privacy clause. And here comes mailchimp and want to sniff it under the hood in the name of migration. They will literally land us in jail, if we don't migrate.

Yeah, this is a very big change in policy, and I suspect it might catch out Mandrill customers who don't read the fine print. The privacy policies for a couple of web applications I work with, for example, are incompatible with this new policy.

Guys, are you sure about this? Mailchimp subscribers and Mandrill users are not the same thing... Otherwise the Mailchimp cost would skyrocket, as they charge users in terms of subscribers amount

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by cristoirmac » Sat, Mar 05, 2016, 11:33 PM UTC

wcossick wrote: post #188

cristoirmac wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We tweaked our pricing today so 100k free and fixed the confusing plans - check it out https://www.sparkpost.com/pricing We have been doing transactional email for 15 years for the likes of Twitter, Pinterest, Zillow smaller developers and startups and are not going anywhere - we are very developer friendly. Also check out https://developers.sparkpost.com

Which pricing is correct? https://www.sparkpost.com/pricing or http://pages.sparkpost.com/sparkpost-vs-mandrill

We were midway through our pricing update at the time - but both pages should now have the latest prices, including our 100K free tier. Please try it out and if you have questions you can find us at developers.sparkpost.com and slack.sparkpost.com

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by stephenhamilton » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 4:18 AM UTC

Has anyone here got any experience with using SMTP.com for sending transactional and bulk email via SMPT relay? I would love to know what you think of their service? I'm looking at potential services, and this is one on my radar that doesn't appear to be getting discussed here. But that makes me wonder if there is an obvious reason why not...

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by stephenhamilton » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 4:21 AM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #112

I have a proposal. I'll give all the transactional email competitors (mailgun, postmark, sparkpost, etc) a week to get their shit together and come up with a migration proposal for all of us moving away from Mandrill. I'm sure they're scrambling around trying to figure out how to take advantage of this ridiculous situation, and I bet a bunch of them are on HN. So how about this: 1. Any HN user trying to figure out wh…

Thanks for sending that through - some very useful information in there. Appreciate it.

Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by giovanni_lucas » Tue, Mar 08, 2016, 3:50 PM UTC

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Re: Major changes to Mandrill, must be tied to a MailChimp account

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Post by esseti » Wed, Mar 09, 2016, 8:58 AM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #112

I have a proposal. I'll give all the transactional email competitors (mailgun, postmark, sparkpost, etc) a week to get their shit together and come up with a migration proposal for all of us moving away from Mandrill. I'm sure they're scrambling around trying to figure out how to take advantage of this ridiculous situation, and I bet a bunch of them are on HN. So how about this: 1. Any HN user trying to figure out wh…

have you sent the email? beacuse i can't find it. maybe it was filtered as spam