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Clinical Trials.
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How cancer cells fuel their growth
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#22Very interesting. What does this mean for low carb, high protein diets heavily promoted these days (Keto)? Reminds me of this talk on TED - William Li, Anti-Angiogenesis therapy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkzfeJz66o Does this research mean these diets and therapies are less effective than previously thought?
Keto is not low carb, high protein. It's high fat, low carb, moderate protein. On keto you eat the standard recommended amount of protein (depending on your athleticism, it'll be around .69-1.2g per lb of LBM). Most of your calories come from fat.
My breakfast this morning was coffee with butter and MCT oil
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#23Ooooh very interesting: " cells fuels their growth with amino-acids " what a discovery!
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
No.
Please elaborate / substantiate?
Your immune system is more direct and effective at countering cancer development than any diet, unless you are consuming cancirogens.
Cancer development itself is a sign that cancer cells developed at pace great enough to "overpower" your immune system or you have genetic mutation that causes your body develop cancer on its own because its de-facto wired to do so.
Once cancer develops, it becomes race with time. It will eventually kill you, unless you destroy it first. Diet change may slow sickness progression, but it is there and it competes for nutrients with rest of your body. Many cancer victims succumb to severe anemia before their vital organs cease to function.
When sickness tool on body becomes serious, even your social mammal brain turns on you, putting interests of group above your own and making you stop eating, become apathetic and withdrawm from others as it seeks to reduce burden on the group and its resources pool.
Both of those effects make reducing diets value in cancer combat discussable.
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#25This is rather ironic. Anyone in a developing world would tell you that malnutrition is exactly what happen due to lack of proteins. But there is no life outside biology departments of top US universities.
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#26A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose.
The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer.
Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee.
His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've switched to a higher fat less protein less carbs diet and feel much better for it and i have far more energy.
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#27A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…
This guy advocates for keto by cutting sugar http://quantifiedself.com/2015/12/effects-year-ketosis-jim-m...
He measures a lot of molecules in his blood streams and noticed reduced inflammation amongts other benefits.
I find his short talk nice and detailed although I'm a total newcomer.
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#29Very interesting. What does this mean for low carb, high protein diets heavily promoted these days (Keto)? Reminds me of this talk on TED - William Li, Anti-Angiogenesis therapy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkzfeJz66o Does this research mean these diets and therapies are less effective than previously thought?
The Warburg effect is a metabolic pathway involving anaerobic burning of glucose. When cells consume fats instead of sugar it must be aerobically. Burning glucose aerobically is much more efficient than doing so without O2. The belief is that this means that low carb diets should be a good preventative for cancers as they remove the metabolic pathway needed by the cancer cells as there isn't enough glucose for them.…
A med student told me his team found that starving cancer cells wouldn't work because they were better at sipping glucose than normal cells, meaning healthy tissue would suffer first.
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#30A low carb diet has been proven to inhibit the development of most cancers, because of their huge requirement for glucose. The obvious conclusion from this research is that low carb AND low protein diet is the best option to inhibit cancer. Kind of also supports leading bio hackers such as Dave Asprey creator of Bulletproof coffee. His podcasts are brilliant, they have made a big impression on me - as a result I've s…
I would be very careful in making such judgment. If you have a cancer which is stealing the available protein from other cells, reducing the total amount of protein might reduce the cancer growth or it might just reduce the already declining supply for the healthy cells.