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Re: Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Post by beachstartup »

macintux wrote: post #9
beachstartup wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably: 1. strong fundamentals of L2/L3 networking 2. software defined networking state of the art 3. linux and windows virtualization state of the art 4. distributed storage state of the art 5. familiarity with commodity 64 bit hardware of all varieties (supermicro, dell, hp, etc.) 6. kernel debugging skills (maybe not development) 7. networking debugging skills @ the packet level 8. strong understanding of http a…

It's implied, but worth stating explicitly: automation of mass server deployments and operations should be on the list.

it was implied in point 3, but yes, and (implied in point 5)... know how to do this for physical servers too. i.e. the machines that are actually doing the computing that everyone thinks is happening 'in the cloud'.

i.e., how do you assembly-line build an entire rack or cage without manually installing any software? it's not easy. in fact it's very hard, probably even the most advanced groups require some manual intervention or at least some manual troubleshooting every once in a while.

Re: Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Post by matt_wulfeck »

marssaxman wrote: post #20
matt_wulfeck wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a $300k paycheck at Netflix wouldn't be very unusual for highly skilled cloud engineers.

Is that some aggregate estimated "total compensation" figure or are they making $300K in real money? That sounds very, very high for what I have seen.

Netflix is known to be at the high end of salary as base pay. You can see the numbers yourself by looking at H1B petitions. I see many software engineers above $300k [1]. I don't think it's the norm in the valley, but for someone highly skilled it's attainable.

[1] http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Netflix&job=SENIOR+SOFTWARE...

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Post by tostitos1979 »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #23
marssaxman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that some aggregate estimated "total compensation" figure or are they making $300K in real money? That sounds very, very high for what I have seen.

Netflix is known to be at the high end of salary as base pay. You can see the numbers yourself by looking at H1B petitions. I see many software engineers above $300k [1]. I don't think it's the norm in the valley, but for someone highly skilled it's attainable. [1] http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Netflix&job=SENIOR+SOFTWARE...

Agreed. Netflix is known to be an outlier. My understanding is that it is also a relatively high stress place to work.

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Post by jschlemm »

beachstartup wrote: post #5
neduma wrote: post #2

What skills exactly needed here?

probably: 1. strong fundamentals of L2/L3 networking 2. software defined networking state of the art 3. linux and windows virtualization state of the art 4. distributed storage state of the art 5. familiarity with commodity 64 bit hardware of all varieties (supermicro, dell, hp, etc.) 6. kernel debugging skills (maybe not development) 7. networking debugging skills @ the packet level 8. strong understanding of http a…

looks like a hard package to fill.

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Post by jschlemm »

thinkingkong wrote: post #3
neduma wrote: post #2

What skills exactly needed here?

Cloud Computing experts could apply to a lot. But if any anecdotal evidence from friends is accurate, you basically need to understand how to build massively distributed highly reliable systems and that's a rather unique skill set. It's because not a lot of places actually require those skills. Most companies mess around with tools or distributed storage systems because it's fun, not because they actually need to do…

there is so much here it's hard to know where to get started.

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Post by jschlemm »

thinkingkong wrote: post #3
neduma wrote: post #2

What skills exactly needed here?

Cloud Computing experts could apply to a lot. But if any anecdotal evidence from friends is accurate, you basically need to understand how to build massively distributed highly reliable systems and that's a rather unique skill set. It's because not a lot of places actually require those skills. Most companies mess around with tools or distributed storage systems because it's fun, not because they actually need to do…

there is so much here it's hard to know where to get started.

Re: Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Post by marssaxman »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #23
marssaxman wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that some aggregate estimated "total compensation" figure or are they making $300K in real money? That sounds very, very high for what I have seen.

Netflix is known to be at the high end of salary as base pay. You can see the numbers yourself by looking at H1B petitions. I see many software engineers above $300k [1]. I don't think it's the norm in the valley, but for someone highly skilled it's attainable. [1] http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Netflix&job=SENIOR+SOFTWARE...

Interesting. Thanks for the data. I wouldn't want to work there myself, but it's good to keep an eye on what the market's doing.

Re: Tech Companies, New and Old, Clamor to Entice Cloud Computing Experts

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Post by beachstartup »

jschlemm wrote: post #26
beachstartup wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

probably: 1. strong fundamentals of L2/L3 networking 2. software defined networking state of the art 3. linux and windows virtualization state of the art 4. distributed storage state of the art 5. familiarity with commodity 64 bit hardware of all varieties (supermicro, dell, hp, etc.) 6. kernel debugging skills (maybe not development) 7. networking debugging skills @ the packet level 8. strong understanding of http a…

looks like a hard package to fill.

uh yeah, they don't give away 300k-1M/yr paychecks for nothing.
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