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FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by mattiemass » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 10:57 AM UTC

FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format
flif.info

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by chris_wot » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:05 PM UTC

I wonder if IE will adopt it? Firefox and Chrome are very responsive, Microsoft not so much.

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by p4bl0 » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:07 PM UTC

There was a previous discussion on HN about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10317790

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by ekianjo » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:08 PM UTC

Thanks Jon for your work on this!

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by AshleysBrain » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:12 PM UTC

If browsers supported APIs to allow "native" image/video/audio codecs to be written in JS, we could support new formats like this without needing any co-operation from the (very conservative) browser vendors. I wrote a proposal for this here: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/custom-image-audio-video-codec-a...

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by ekianjo » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:15 PM UTC

AshleysBrain wrote: post #5

If browsers supported APIs to allow "native" image/video/audio codecs to be written in JS, we could support new formats like this without needing any co-operation from the (very conservative) browser vendors. I wrote a proposal for this here: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/custom-image-audio-video-codec-a...

So you would need to load up the JS decompressor every single time you load a webpage? Or is there another way to do it efficiently ?

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by sccxy » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:16 PM UTC

chris_wot wrote: post #2

I wonder if IE will adopt it? Firefox and Chrome are very responsive, Microsoft not so much.

Safari is much bigger problem than Edge/IE.

No hope for WebM in Safari. WebM for Edge is in development.

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by matzipan » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:20 PM UTC

Does anybody understand how lossless JPEG works? To my mind, the whole point of JPEG is to get rid of high-frequency components.

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by pcx » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:22 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #6

AshleysBrain wrote: post #5

If browsers supported APIs to allow "native" image/video/audio codecs to be written in JS, we could support new formats like this without needing any co-operation from the (very conservative) browser vendors. I wrote a proposal for this here: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/custom-image-audio-video-codec-a...

So you would need to load up the JS decompressor every single time you load a webpage? Or is there another way to do it efficiently ?

May be adding support using an extension/addon would work.

Re: FLIF – Free Lossless Image Format

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Post by AshleysBrain » Mon, Mar 07, 2016, 12:23 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #6

AshleysBrain wrote: post #5

If browsers supported APIs to allow "native" image/video/audio codecs to be written in JS, we could support new formats like this without needing any co-operation from the (very conservative) browser vendors. I wrote a proposal for this here: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/custom-image-audio-video-codec-a...

So you would need to load up the JS decompressor every single time you load a webpage? Or is there another way to do it efficiently ?

That's the downside - but if a JS decompressor library is served from a CDN, it only has to load it on the first site that uses it, like using jQuery from a CDN. Service Workers can also serve content like this from an offline cache, so it doesn't have to hit the server again on later visits.