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Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by grannyg00se » Sat, Feb 13, 2010, 5:28 AM UTC

Main graph and video take aways from the presentation: -obesity related deaths are responsible for orders of magnitude more deaths than homicide

-typical families have extremely poor knowledge regarding food consumption, eating mostly processed, unhealthy food.

Some suggested solutions from the presentation: -food education in grocery stores (cooking presentations)

-food education in schools

-labeling improvements

-a new standard of fresh local food in schools

-every child should know 10 recipes that will save their lives by the time they finish school

-better food in the office

-pass on good food preparation and cooking as a philosophy to friends and family

All pretty basic stuff. Know what to cook, how to cook it, and how much of it to consume. It's sad how people live their entire lifestyle on processed junk.

Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by vishaldpatel » Sat, Feb 13, 2010, 6:51 AM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #6

vishaldpatel wrote: post #5

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Sugar = fat. A lot of food says 0% fat, when the ultimate result of all that sugar is essentially fat.

Sugar != fat in terms of the content of food. If something has zero fat but 400 calories, then it's still bad for you but in a different way. Either way, it's clearly labeled. The problem is that people don't know how to interpret the labels. Better education would help with that. Weight watchers, for example, has their points formula which boils down the calories, fat, and fiber values into a single number that is e…

Yes, sugar indeed != fat. When you do eat sugar - it is your body's first choice for energy. This means that any fat you eat gets stored for later consumption... which will be never cuz most of us eat way too much sugar anyway.

Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by cubicle67 » Sat, Feb 13, 2010, 10:28 AM UTC

NZ_Matt wrote: post #3

A very impressive and passionate presentation. Jamie's use of shock value is very effective and probably necessary to get people to listen and take action.

Have you seen his Chicken special? The one where he kills a few dozen cute fluffy yellow chickens in front of a live audience? That show was full of shock value, all aimed at getting people to realise just what happens in the industry, and also where your chicken dinner comes from

Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by DaniFong » Sat, Feb 13, 2010, 6:05 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #13

rdouble wrote: post #11

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Have you seen Joel Fuhrman's ANDI rating system? It's being used at Whole Foods. http://www.examiner.com/x-672-Disease-Prevention-Examiner~y2...

What I get out of these "boiled-down" systems is that I should just eat a vitamin pill and some cardboard. Low sugar, low fat, high nutrients.

There might be a lot you're missing. Nutrition is hideously complex, but since we're evolved to eat whole foods and there are a lot of bioactive enzymes and or compounds that aren't well known or in vitamin pills you could be missing out on something crucial.

Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by jrockway » Sun, Feb 14, 2010, 12:02 AM UTC

DaniFong wrote: post #24

jrockway wrote: post #13

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What I get out of these "boiled-down" systems is that I should just eat a vitamin pill and some cardboard. Low sugar, low fat, high nutrients.

There might be a lot you're missing. Nutrition is hideously complex, but since we're evolved to eat whole foods and there are a lot of bioactive enzymes and or compounds that aren't well known or in vitamin pills you could be missing out on something crucial.

That would be my point.

Re: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize wish: Teach every child about food

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Post by DaniFong » Sun, Feb 14, 2010, 11:38 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #25

DaniFong wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There might be a lot you're missing. Nutrition is hideously complex, but since we're evolved to eat whole foods and there are a lot of bioactive enzymes and or compounds that aren't well known or in vitamin pills you could be missing out on something crucial.

That would be my point.

And so any labeling system needs to emphasize that it is incomplete, and that vitamins/minerals that we've located might simply be the markers of good food: not the sole constituents. It's like correlations versus causality.