I'm curious if the person created the website to look dated and unattractive to add more of a grungy.. aka underground info feel? I love CloudFlare all, but haters gone hate, and everyone is free to express their views.
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're making a lot of changes to how we handle Tor: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/203306930
It's funny how Often a real space concept (country) which is used to model business logic ends up morphing into a abstract configuration knob.
i believe Conway's law applies here.
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#13Some people do some pretty nasty things using the Internet and may be protected by CloudFlare. But there's also some pretty amazing things that happen because of it. Some people say mean, false, and hurtful things. But others can say kind, insightful, and truthful things. Some religious traditions are honestly rather disturbing to me. But others are a part of who I am. I would much prefer to live in a world where eve…
I don't understand your last paragraph. CloudFlare isn't a necessary service for publishing stuff online. If they tightened up their rules, that wouldn't be a world where someone else dictates what you can say or believe. Free speech doesn't require private entities to host or publish regardless of content, and it's totally consistent to both advocate for free speech and advocate that entities not make certain kinds…
It's hard to host a website if you don't have the support of CloudFlare or something similar, DoS attacks get you off hosting providers pretty quickly.
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#14It seems weird to target them because their services can be abused for illegal purposes like terrorism. One can use Bic pens also for terrorist purposes, but I don't recall people setting up bic watch websites.
And on http://www.crimeflare.com/cfs.html you can see he accepts payments through Paypal, why rally against CloudFlare but don't mind getting money through Paypal?
The Silicon Valley is the opium of the people quote just makes it feel all in all very goofy, combined with the nineties website, comic sans and under construction gifs just seem to lack.
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#15Some people do some pretty nasty things using the Internet and may be protected by CloudFlare. But there's also some pretty amazing things that happen because of it. Some people say mean, false, and hurtful things. But others can say kind, insightful, and truthful things. Some religious traditions are honestly rather disturbing to me. But others are a part of who I am. I would much prefer to live in a world where eve…
I don't understand your last paragraph. CloudFlare isn't a necessary service for publishing stuff online. If they tightened up their rules, that wouldn't be a world where someone else dictates what you can say or believe. Free speech doesn't require private entities to host or publish regardless of content, and it's totally consistent to both advocate for free speech and advocate that entities not make certain kinds…
I was drawing parallels; Cloudflare's open support for all websites is meritorious in the same way that freedom of speech and religion are meritorious. The temptation to regulate it has consequences which are analogous to limiting speech or religion.
And no, it wouldn't dictate what you could say or believe, but it can help you say it. And if you need to say something that a powerful entity doesn't want said, they can protect you from DDoS and other attacks.
It's one thing to advocate that entities not make certain kinds of speech - by all means, please advocate away! But CloudFlare is an assistant to speech, not just an advocate. The moment you start making rules and decisions about what you enable, you open yourself up to the human possibility of making wrong rules and decisions. And that means it's better to not make the rules in the first place. "Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" and all that.
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#16Shameless plug / full disclosure: I work at Kloudsec
In case you're looking for alternatives, Kloudsec [1] is a minimal CDN platform made for programmers. And I think we make a good alternative because:
a) You get to keep your nameservers, just point the relevant domain to our CDN's IP
b) Auto LetsEncrypt SSL cert provisioning (and renewing too)
c) Every plugin is optional (WAF, Pagespeed, Analytics). Just toggle them on and off. You can also build/bring your own (nginx) plugin onto our CDN network.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand your last paragraph. CloudFlare isn't a necessary service for publishing stuff online. If they tightened up their rules, that wouldn't be a world where someone else dictates what you can say or believe. Free speech doesn't require private entities to host or publish regardless of content, and it's totally consistent to both advocate for free speech and advocate that entities not make certain kinds…
I was drawing parallels; Cloudflare's open support for all websites is meritorious in the same way that freedom of speech and religion are meritorious. The temptation to regulate it has consequences which are analogous to limiting speech or religion. And no, it wouldn't dictate what you could say or believe, but it can help you say it. And if you need to say something that a powerful entity doesn't want said, they ca…
I don't get this at all. Why shouldn't CloudFlare make rules? So what if they get it wrong sometimes? There are plenty of alternatives. Not having any rules about what you'll host seems crazy.
Free speech means that you can say whatever you want, but it does not mean that you can get others to help you say it. If they want to help then fine, but if they don't want to help you that's not a free speech issue.
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#18As far as I can tell, this is by Daniel Brandt - previously of (now defunct) Google Watch and a bunch of other similar projects over the past 27+ years: http://www.leavegooglebehind.com/news/2012/02/google-critic-... (Based on the IRS letter posted on the site at http://www.crimeflare.com/gifs/irslet.gif which mentions "Public Information Research Inc", Brandt's organization) Update: confirmed, here's a page on the s…
Daniel Brandt? I googled that name and, whoa, those results!
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#19So... judging by the titles, what this website is suggesting is basically that free speech only applies if you agree with it, and since they don't agree with CloudFlare's decision to host everything, CloudFlare is bad? Honestly, the only thing I don't like about CloudFlare is their treatment of Tor users, which I don't see being mentioned anywhere in here.
We're making a lot of changes to how we handle Tor: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/203306930
What's the point in restricting this to enterprise users? I can make access rules for every other country except 'T1' on a the entry-level paid plan?
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#20Seems to be the same guy who made cloudflare-watch.com which was actually using cloudflare for a while.