And why exactly should we assume the "additivity of small effects" assumption holds far from the center of the current g distribution?? Stack up enough of these variants and you're into unknown territory, including possibly inviable embryos.
Super-Intelligent Humans Are Coming
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#72I don't know if there is any statistical correlation or not, but (as the article alludes to) it does seem that super intelligent people are more prone to some kind of other deficiencies, and particularly social issues. Can anyone shed more light on whether this is true or not? Anecdotally, one of my best friends (extremely intelligent, Cum Laude engineering student) went "off the rails" a few years after graduating.…
I believe a lot of these social issues are due to lack of understanding between society vs. a "genius". But if 20%+ of the population are on the same wave length, they may not feel so alienated. An individual's "social issues" may not be a problem for 20%+ of the population, so it may not longer be an issue.
This is a good point, although if being intelligent is correlated with being on the autistic spectrum in any way, then it doesn't really matter how many people have the same level of intelligence/condition/personality. As someone who's on the spectrum myself, I can say that you could put ten or so people with high functionality autism or what not in a room together and they'd still find it difficult to socialise.
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#73I don't know if there is any statistical correlation or not, but (as the article alludes to) it does seem that super intelligent people are more prone to some kind of other deficiencies, and particularly social issues. Can anyone shed more light on whether this is true or not? Anecdotally, one of my best friends (extremely intelligent, Cum Laude engineering student) went "off the rails" a few years after graduating.…
The only health problems associated with higher intelligence (as opposed to either low intelligence or completely independent of intelligence) are [1] high functioning autism, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Two can be treated with pills when they are disruptive with relatively high success, and the other (Autism) is to me not a particularly net negative condition when high functioning (several immediately family…
Note that a combined diagnosis of schizophrenia and biopolar, has very high rates of suicide (over 10% if left untreated).
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#74I would gladly fork out the cost of a university tuition for CRISPR therapy to give my children the edge. But many would be adverse to this, probably to the extent of being a same sex marriage/abortion level of debate.
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#75Some of the assumptions in this article are very ambiguous and makes the reading quite disturbing. I don't grasp the author's notions of IQ. Maybe it's me misunderstanding the writing, but IQ is more of a normative scale than an infinite scale. You don't push your IQ to 1000. It's not an anime energy level. This makes no sense. Then there are things like "Right now we've got assortative mating going on at a scale rel…
With only 7 billion people on the planet the theoretical IQ maximum is around 190. You can calculate this value from the CDF (cumulative distribution function) of a normal probability distribution having a mean of 100 and std of 15 (the definition of the IQ graph). Unfortunately the integral of normal pdf is the error function which is difficult to solve with high precision.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
There'd still be at least a generation before the kids are up to speed. Even if they're of the "finish HS by 12, BS by 13, PhD by 16" types, they still have to accumulate a large amount of knowledge and practice, to actively participate in the science.
And I think science is not a zero sum game.
There's only so much science to go around, so don't go hogging all the discoveries.
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#77I don't know if there is any statistical correlation or not, but (as the article alludes to) it does seem that super intelligent people are more prone to some kind of other deficiencies, and particularly social issues. Can anyone shed more light on whether this is true or not? Anecdotally, one of my best friends (extremely intelligent, Cum Laude engineering student) went "off the rails" a few years after graduating.…
The only health problems associated with higher intelligence (as opposed to either low intelligence or completely independent of intelligence) are [1] high functioning autism, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Two can be treated with pills when they are disruptive with relatively high success, and the other (Autism) is to me not a particularly net negative condition when high functioning (several immediately family…
"high functioning" kind of autism is a misnomer - even if you aren't the kind that bangs their head on the floor / avoided being non-verbal, life can be quite challenging.
I agree that it isn't necessarily a net negative, but the success of an individual on the spectrum seems highly conditional on life circumstances.
The thing is, genetics for autism also seem to produce people with adhd (reciently rolled into the spectrum) and generally coincide with decreased ability in executive function - leading to the absent minded professor syndrome. It also has a high prevalence of sensory processing disorder which can lead to a lot of issues with dealing with day-to-day life.
Even in cases where people with ASD happen to be of above average intelligence, it doesn't necessarily lead to success. I score 99% percentile in almost all academic areas, but I can't even feed myself right now. I'm functionally retarded when it comes to interacting with people half the time and the high-stress that comes from normal every day things means I might as well be agoraphobic.
Under the right conditions I have no doubt that I can flourish. I'm actively engaged in getting my life back on track (grew up in poverty, diagnosed late in life) but there's a reason that suicide rates and general unemployment levels for people on the spectrum are astronomical compared to the general population.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I respectfully disagree. We need a society of people who hate working hard but, very importantly , are deeply empathic so they won't just leave the hard work for other people. Those are the people who automate the hard things away and share their work so other people can do the same, to leave time for science, abstract creative pursuits, recreation, etc.
>share their work If you mean share for free, then I don't think that's ever likely on any large scale. You're talking about altruism, which is very exploitable by the scrupulous.
You're talking about altruism
Not at all. We share things so others can build on our work and share their changes back again. The work gets improved (directly by contributions, or by testing, or just through feedback and criticism), and we benefit from those improvements. It isn't altruism because the reason we share the code is to get those improvements. Without community feedback very few people would bother opening up their source and putting it out in the world.
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#80Here are a few patterns I've seen in studies or surfaced: 1. Intelligence is an ability to observe, gather feedback based on past observations, and see patterns at a speed much faster than others at a lower general level. The growth in insight can be exponential, but it also means you start thinking at levels of abstraction and patterns that are layers above people at other levels. You struggle to communicate. 2. Hig…
Sounds like a load of bullshit with no sources that plays on peoples' stereotypical view of a genius. Your 'platform' is just a forum, irc, facebook page, or literally any social network.