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Post by kazinator »

mgrennan wrote: post #119
kazinator wrote: post #116

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> Dyslexia is the result of a significant weakness in the phonological processing system Does that mean that dyslexics have trouble with the spoken word? The Wikipedia page lists such issues as associated conditions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#Associated_conditions ``Many people with dyslexia have auditory processing problems ...''

Yes, some dyslexis like myself do. For example Pin and Pen both sound the same to me. I don't care how you try to pronounce them or with different accents. They are always the same.

What if the vowel sounds are isolated and elongated: iiii, eeee. Does that sound the same?

If someone is using the wah-wah pedal with an electric guitar to change the timbre of a note, can you tell?

Is it really about sound? Or is it just that the "phonetic analyzer" isn't distinguishing the phonemes?

If you can consciously hear the acoustic difference in timbre, how can you then not use that to tell the words apart (even if slowly/inefficiently)? As in "I just heard something that may be pin or pen; now I have to concentrate on what I heard. Hmm, the vowel sounded like a band filter tuned toward a higher frequency so it must be pin, rather than pen."

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Post by fabulist »

ArtDev wrote: post #93

This is not dyslexia. It is both a curse and a gift. It is extremely misunderstood. This only makes that point more apparent. Dylexia is a gift, once you understand how to adapt. This project is quite stupid.

I'd be very interested to hear more about how it is after one has adapted.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by dogma1138 »

SandersAK wrote: post #43

Pretty interesting stuff. What was strange for me is that I had no problem reading 90% of that at the same pace as I usually read except for word I have never seen before. I tend to speed read contextually skipping over words entirely. Maybe a bad thing now that i think of it...

I had no problems either, and i don't really speed read... That said it's most likely because my brain has a look forward / glance over paragraph mode which is probably engaged all the time.

To verify this i took a print screen and it was considerably harder to read.

So the ease of readability to me was because the word blinked at least once in the correct order and it registered even if i didn't get to it yet.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by epalmer »

oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

I am slightly dyslexic but my oldest is severely dyslexic. She could read it (she can read a book a day now after years and years of work) She barely noticed the text changing. Oh....

But the weird thing for her is she works in a library and loves that.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by xenonite »

oblique63 wrote: post #136
LoSboccacc wrote: post #101

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does things like the open dyslexic[1] font actually help? 1: opendyslexic.org

I bought a kobo ereader over a kindle not too long ago, precisely because it supported this font. I tend to prefer Comic Sans[0] over it a bit though, and use Pointfree[1] on all my code editors. None of those make reading completely smooth experience of course, but they do provide a noticeable improvement over traditional serif text. I'd say having a large line spacing, an unjustified text layout, and a darker/lower…

I am amazed about this unexpected compliment to the Comic Sans MS designers. I always thought that this font is, conversely, harder to read than serif fonts. Seemingly this is not always the case in practice.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by nkrisc »

baddox wrote: post #102
logfromblammo wrote: post #98

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It looks like it's just doing random anagrams of all the letters in the word, except the first and last. From what I know of dyslexia, wouldn't it be more appropriate to replace each letter with a weighted random selection from groupings of similar glyphs? a e g 6 9 @ b d p q P c n u C G U ( ) f t k x H K X + h y F T Y i ! : ; j r J L 7 [ ] l I 1 / | \ m w E 3 { } o D O Q 0 s z S Z 2 5 ? $ v A V ^ 4 B R 8 & M N W . ,…

It seems like only replacing similar glyphs would make it even easier to read.

Yes, but now try passing a spelling test in elementary school when "word" looks like "worb"

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by baddox »

nkrisc wrote: post #146
baddox wrote: post #102

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It seems like only replacing similar glyphs would make it even easier to read.

Yes, but now try passing a spelling test in elementary school when "word" looks like "worb"

Of course. I'm not trying to downplay the challenge of dyslexia. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm expressing doubt that this demonstration at all depicts the struggle of reading with dyslexia.

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Post by cmdrfred »

geon wrote: post #59
JoshTriplett wrote: post #52

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This actually seems like a problem with the implementation linked here: it seems to avoid scrambling the beginning or end of the word, and as a result you can mostly read the text without too much difficulty. To more accurately convey the problems faced by someone with dyslexia, the words should be scrambled in a way that doesn't leave them easy to make out.

That is entirely intentional. It is still possible to read. At least short wods, and the longer ones you recognize, and can infer from context. The jumping text is mostly distracting.

I'm dyslexic but I have no trouble reading, I just flip letters and numbers around while they are stored in my head primarily. I dont look at individual letters as much the shape of words and context clues so changing a letter or two doesn't matter. If this effect was about half the speed I might get though the article without noticing.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by lugg »

oib wrote: post #129
lugg wrote: post #123

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I'm not sure of what specific letters caused me issue while reading when I was young. I think it was (and is) more of a general sense, I read pretty damn slow. What I had huge problems with was writing the letters g, d, y, and u. u's became y's, and d's became g's. This was mostly what I'd call a run on effect, the motion just continues and there is no stop early exit point. It may also be because my I tend to write…

I have this as well. I am handwriting a word and instead of writing a p I write a b. I trend to immateriality notice this mistake, sometimes even when I'm still in the process of writing the wrong letter. And this does not happen when typing. However this is considered dysgrafie, not dyslexia. That said, it's the brain that has defects, and it's probably more or less all connected and related to each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia#/media/File:Dysgrap...

This example looks chillingly similar to what I was speaking of.

Thanks for the info.

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Post by ktRolster »

slg wrote: post #72
ktRolster wrote: post #61

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> the problem is my brain is already moving forward and > the word I read is often not the word written on the page. Either I have dyslexia, or that's how everyone's brain works. Sometimes when I'm reading out loud, I'll completely make up words that are not on the page.

I imagine like most of these things it is a spectrum. Most people probably just ignored unless it happens enough to start causing problems. EDIT: There is an example right there. "Ignored" instead of "ignore it", smashing two words together that are somewhat phonetically close.

and when I read it, I read "ignored it" instead of "ignored" lol
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