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Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by 205guy »

geon wrote: post #36
Arzh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone also with dyslexia, I thought it was pretty good. Yes it is not that extreme but that is the point of the piece I think.

Yes. It's just my interpretation of something I heard.

Well, isn't that just burying the lede? I applaud the application of technology, but sometimes I think the neophyte approach, combined with the amplification of the web, can be more detrimental than helpful as intended.

Sorry to be uncharitable, but here is how you could've written a more honest introduction:

I heard a friend with dyslexia say that letters just jump around for her. Without asking for details, this reminded me that I had a hammer called JavaScript, and this looked like a nail to pound. So I wrote some quick code with made-up parameters and copied info from Wikipedia for cachet. I didn't bother to get any further feedback from dyslexics about this, so it is purely my folk-interpretation of a condition I don't really know about. I then uploaded it to HN to get some feedback, but I still didn't bother explaining what I did or why.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by facepalm »

baddox wrote: post #57
oib wrote: post #26

Ugh, as someone with dyslexia, it's nothing visual, so trying to visualize being dyslexic is an exercise in futility. You know those "drunk" googles that distort your view? They certainly make it harder to walk, but they in no way make you feel drunk... Try explaining someone what it feels like being on LSD... you can't. Telling people that letters jump around is an easy way to dismiss people whit out having to do a…

I'm not dyslexic, but the bigger problem I see with this demonstration is that I actually still found it fairly easy to read. There's actually not that much ambiguity for most rearranged words when they're in the context of grammatical sentences. I'm sure that real dyslexia is a much more difficult challenge than this demonstration.

I found it readable, but I am glad I didn't have to learn reading like that. Maybe then I would never have reached a level that allows me to read that.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by sbassi »

The demo is enlightening, but the text is not telling to more important thing about dyslexia: The main problem is not the difficult to read (that is an issue of course) but the social implications for the people with this, when parents, teachers and pairs believes the kid can't read because is dumb or lazy. Self esteem goes to the floor and also impact in performance even in thing not related with reading. So awareness that this is a real issue (and not that is lazy) and that the kid has to make a lot of effort to catch up is very important to help them have a better future.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by edgan »

stordoff wrote: post #42
mgrennan wrote: post #25

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Thank you for the link. I'm 60 and have suffered with Dyslexia all my life. I do well today thanks to spelling correction and Audio Books. But it is a struggle. There are "English Nazis" everywhere. I hear thing like "You might get promoted if you would play attention to your spelling." Most of my special Ed friends flip burgers even with 140+ IQs.

I'm not dyslexic, but I've also experienced a similar attitude towards spelling. It's something I've always struggled with (I tend to think faster than I write, so frequently muddle words together, and words tend to 'look fine' even if I know the correct spelling - writing this I typed 'thinker' instead of 'think faster', and something like 'wierd' wouldn't stand out to me without spell-check). Fortunately it's never…

I think I have a mild form of dyslexia, and I am the same way. I can type the wrong word correctly, but thought the right word. I can repeatedly swap some words for each other, like it for he, and he for it. Spell checking works very well for me, but if I picked the wrong word it didn't help. I also make many of the classic mistakes like there and their. Also use of apostrophes if I am not careful.

I don't think it has seriously held me back, but I think I have begun to notice a more subtle way it has held be back.

I am mgrennan's son.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by ntpeters »

deelowe wrote: post #106
dbbolton wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am dyslexic, and just for some background info I have uncorrected 20/20 vision but my symptoms are exacerbated by comorbid ADHD. I'm sure everyone experiences it differently, but the image on the left is a pretty close approximation of what I often see when trying to read from a page: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Dyslexic... Say I was reading the line "...as well as other perceptual tasks." I…

uhh... I'm sitting here wondering if I'm mildly dyslexic. I often swap letters around when typing, read words that aren't there, leave words out, etc... I've always had this problem and just assumed I didn't proof-read well enough. Is there a test for mild dyslexia? How would one know for sure? Should I care? I doesn't bother me much other than people thinking I have terrible grammar and reading comprehension skills.

I'm also interested if there is some sort of test. I find myself doing many of these things when I read long passages.

One other thing that is very common for me, but I'm not sure if it is related to dyslexia or not, is that I will frequently either forget the next word I was about to say or say the wrong word without noticing. An example of the latter would be if I am filling the dishwasher I'll say that I finished the laundry, or I'll refer to shaving in the morning as mowing. These happen to me on an almost daily basis.

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by oblique63 »

LoSboccacc wrote: post #101
dbbolton wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am dyslexic, and just for some background info I have uncorrected 20/20 vision but my symptoms are exacerbated by comorbid ADHD. I'm sure everyone experiences it differently, but the image on the left is a pretty close approximation of what I often see when trying to read from a page: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Dyslexic... Say I was reading the line "...as well as other perceptual tasks." I…

does things like the open dyslexic[1] font actually help? 1: opendyslexic.org

I bought a kobo ereader over a kindle not too long ago, precisely because it supported this font. I tend to prefer Comic Sans[0] over it a bit though, and use Pointfree[1] on all my code editors. None of those make reading completely smooth experience of course, but they do provide a noticeable improvement over traditional serif text.

I'd say having a large line spacing, an unjustified text layout, and a darker/lower-contrast[2], all help more than the font choice itself, but any tiny optimization is helpful.

[0] as a former graphic designer, it actually took me a while to get comfortable with the idea that I found Comic Sans useful for anything, lol

[1] http://www.dafont.com/pointfree.font

[2] https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/text-customization/r11

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by mlkmt »

I have a mild suspicion that my 4 year old niece may be dyslexic. She can read and write all the letters and their sounds, but she can't seem to tie the sounds into syllables, not even the simplest ones. She is not being pressured into reading, she just liked it up to this point. Is there any tell-tale sign I should be aware of ?

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by l0c0b0x »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #29

This reminds me of the meme that went around a few years ago (dear god, 2003!?), claiming that Cambridge researchers showed that you had no trouble reading scrambled word text: "Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed…

I read this without a problem as I scrolled to the right... when I was done, all the text was still moving. Great eye/mind trick!

Re: Dsxyliea

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Post by flatline »

mlkmt wrote: post #137

I have a mild suspicion that my 4 year old niece may be dyslexic. She can read and write all the letters and their sounds, but she can't seem to tie the sounds into syllables, not even the simplest ones. She is not being pressured into reading, she just liked it up to this point. Is there any tell-tale sign I should be aware of ?

While I don't know anything scientifically established about childhood development, from my extensive and recent exposure to 4 year olds this sounds 100% normal.
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