No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The 3 Types of Knowledge")
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#2Sometimes, in conversations with others, I hear them say with complete confidence stuff that I know is total crap. It's like I just can't get over how absolutely wrong they are and yet how absolutely right they believe they are.
So I start wondering how many times I do exactly the same thing. I mean, how can I know what I don't know? How much is there? How do I even know if something I really believe is true or not?
It's hard to think that everything I believe about the world might be completely untrue. In illusion. An ... imagination.
Sometimes I am faced with a situation where if I convince the other person of what I believe, then I also believe that person will be better off. For example, if a car is coming and a child is entering a road, Instinctively, we think to call out to the child or try to stop the child or yell at the car to stop the car, but what if the underlying belief: That the child is better off not being hit. Is false?
What if the child may be better off for being hit. Perhaps it makes the child stronger later in life or through her recovery, she meets the man of her dreams and they live happily ever after?
We don't know. I don't know. How can I know what to do?
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#3Sometimes, in conversations with others, I hear them say with complete confidence stuff that I know is total crap. It's like I just can't get over how absolutely wrong they are and yet how absolutely right they believe they are. So I start wondering how many times I do exactly the same thing. I mean, how can I know what I don't know? How much is there? How do I even know if something I really believe is true or not?…
You can't argue against someone's reality. However, you can get them to believe in your reality.
For example, what is easier - convince you a) that the Martians are attacking or b) that I believe the Martians are attacking?
a) Convince the girl that she is interesting and sexy or b) convince her that you believe that she is interesting and sexy
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#4Sometimes, in conversations with others, I hear them say with complete confidence stuff that I know is total crap. It's like I just can't get over how absolutely wrong they are and yet how absolutely right they believe they are. So I start wondering how many times I do exactly the same thing. I mean, how can I know what I don't know? How much is there? How do I even know if something I really believe is true or not?…
You can't argue against someone's reality. However, you can get them to believe in your reality. For example, what is easier - convince you a) that the Martians are attacking or b) that I believe the Martians are attacking? a) Convince the girl that she is interesting and sexy or b) convince her that you believe that she is interesting and sexy
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Re: No One Knows What the F*** They're Doing (or "The 3 Types of Knowledge")
#5Sometimes, in conversations with others, I hear them say with complete confidence stuff that I know is total crap. It's like I just can't get over how absolutely wrong they are and yet how absolutely right they believe they are. So I start wondering how many times I do exactly the same thing. I mean, how can I know what I don't know? How much is there? How do I even know if something I really believe is true or not?…
This happens to me quite often but if I think a bit about it, I'm not 100% sure either why they're completely wrong.
If you want to get into the conversation (not recommended as it gets ugly quite often when people are completely sure of something * caugh...republicans... caugh*) it's actually better to argue on why they're wrong to be COMPLETELY sure rather than argue the opposite point you might think is right.
They will have far less argument to explain why their point is completely right than to show that yours isn't right either.
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#6You're entitled to your own opinion, not to your own facts. (Some TED speaker)
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#7Sometimes, in conversations with others, I hear them say with complete confidence stuff that I know is total crap. It's like I just can't get over how absolutely wrong they are and yet how absolutely right they believe they are. So I start wondering how many times I do exactly the same thing. I mean, how can I know what I don't know? How much is there? How do I even know if something I really believe is true or not?…
I haven't read the article, yet, but in response to your comment, I am reminded of how, often, people are encouraged to be and rewarded for being "certain". AKA "assertive".
Frequently, when I qualify the knowledge I'm sharing with comments about my level of certainty in it and/or its sources, I'm criticized for being some combination of "too verbose", "uncertain", "confusing" (even though, when people actually pay attention to me, they usually say afterward that they have a much better understanding than they did before), etc.
The world is complex, sometimes. But there's a lot of pressure to ignore that complexity.
And then people wonder why things go to hell in a hand basket. And EVEN THEN, all too often they don't really want to know. They just want to know who to blame, and what pre-packaged "solution" to implement.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't argue against someone's reality. However, you can get them to believe in your reality. For example, what is easier - convince you a) that the Martians are attacking or b) that I believe the Martians are attacking? a) Convince the girl that she is interesting and sexy or b) convince her that you believe that she is interesting and sexy
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Without getting too metaphysical here, beliefs can, if not shape, distort reality.
For example, one of the purposes of fancy, polished, sleek TV automobile ads is to reassure buyers of that particular car that they made the right purchase ("Dude, that's my car!")
Similarly, our beliefs are self-reinforcing. Like imagine you had a conflict with a co-worker because he wronged you in some way. Even if he tries to make up, you may continue to filter all his actions through the he-wronged-me or what-is-he-really-trying-to-do filter. Even if his intentions are honest and beneficial.
There is a bit of a conspiracy theorist in all of us. Either you can believe people are out to get you or take situations as they come, without judgement.
Latest research using functional MRI imaging actually points to strangers mirroring another's emotions at a very low base mental level. For example, if you believe cute women make you nervous, you will become nervous. And, as fMRI reveals they will sympathetically identify with your nervousness and feel anxiety/nervousness themselves. Which is kind of vicious circle (I'm making her nervous because I am nervous. Why did I go on this date?)
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Without getting too metaphysical here, beliefs can, if not shape, distort reality. For example, one of the purposes of fancy, polished, sleek TV automobile ads is to reassure buyers of that particular car that they made the right purchase ("Dude, that's my car!") Similarly, our beliefs are self-reinforcing. Like imagine you had a conflict with a co-worker because he wronged you in some way. Even if he tries to make u…
Sorry, I deleted that without knowing you were composing a reply. Metaphysical. I guess we are at that edge with metaphysics where we know there's a lot out there we don't know and we have to decide if we want to investigate it or not. I suppose it is the same scientifically as well.
We don't want to go build a collider that could create a black hole big enough to envelop the earth, but really, how big is that?
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#10Missing: shit you don't know you know.