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A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by a_imho »

thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

They really are going too far. IANAL, but I think CFAA [1] applies to trying to detect what setup I'm running.

Also, I suggest using the term content blocker, guess it creates less of an attack surface for pro advertisers.

Plug: I strongly encourage disclaimers like [2] "Don't forget to turn on your content blockers, linked sites might not respect your privacy"

[1]http://blog.erratasec.com/2012/11/you-are-committing-crime-r... [2]https://anonimho.com/about.html

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by kecks »

thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

I don't have this problem, I got a perfectly clean page without any ads or social media icons.

I'm running the latest Chrome with uBlock Origin (bunch of filters incl. privacy, social and anti-anti-adblock) and Ghostery. I don't know why you're having this problem, maybe try adding a few blocklists?

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by noir_lord »

epalmer wrote: post #17
lmitchell wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Hacker News, but my least favourite thing about it all is how we glorify 'startups'. It's honestly just a really weird business model, that seems like it's bound to inspire things like the recent Zenefits scandal, Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation, etc. etc. etc. I dunno... like this story implies, it just seems totally ass-backwards to focus on growth before you're profitable, and pretty unhealthy to…

Disclosure: I don't work for a "startup" but have started my own businesses before in the 80's and 90's. I work at a University now in tech. I may get downvoted for this comment. Oh well. I think I get PG's label of startup and why it matters to him and to HN followers. But let us not forget that most businesses are not started as a PG like "startup" and never go through the PG "startup" approach. Look around at the…

I think the startup model isn't much better than a lottery.

You can have good engineering, good product and good vision and still lose horribly, you can shift the probabilities a little but beyond that I don't think you can.

Of course the belief that you are going to succeed is required as well so you end up with lots of people 100% sure they are going to succeed for which a small percentage do (for a given definition of succeed).

I think the whole culture around SV-style startups is both fascinating and disconcerting.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by ncphillips »

thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

Click the link and then as soon as the page article is loaded hit the Stop button in browser. Prevents the Disable Ad-block page form opening up.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by NoGravitas »

thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

Huh. I guess my anti-anti-adblocker is working better than yours. I didn't get that screen. Running uBlock Origin in Medium Mode.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by hrvbr »

thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

For this kind of anti-adblocking that loads the full page before hiding it, we can just display and read the full page with the "article view" feature. I use the Clearly extention for that because Firefox's native version is rarely available.

But yes, it's a very bad business practice to give the middle finger to those interested in your products, even if you can't monetize their presence yet.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

eveningcoffee wrote: post #30
thanatropism wrote: post #10

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

$1 per week is not acceptable amount for accessing random Wired content (that would be $52 a year). Perhpas $0.1 a week, or even $0.01 per week. Or small amount per view (for example $0.01 or even lower, much lower amount), but, the big but, this would considerably put peoples privacy into risk and this would contradict the use case of many ad block users. So here is the deal Wired - you implement an anonymous paymen…

I'm looking forward to the day one of the world's oldest and most annoying web magazines falls off the web because it doesn't understand the web any more.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Post by forgetsusername »

crdoconnor wrote: post #11
mikekchar wrote: post #6

I really wish startups would pay attention to this: “The nice thing about revenue is it’s not diluted capital”. Far too often I see people look at their valuations as something like a scorecard for success. And if you can cash out, then I suppose more power to you. But this programmer is tired of the ".com", "web 2.0", "unicorn" bubbles... I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers.

>I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers. Wish for interest rates to be higher then. That the government policy that's driving this.

>Wish for interest rates to be higher then.

Why? There are people on both sides of the interest-rate trade, so any change in rates creates winners and losers. Higher rates aren't inherently "better" than lower rates.

Personally, I want LOW rates. I'm young and have a mortgage and car payment. I want cheap money, so that I can put it to use investing in my future. Why should I pay more to subsidize the Baby Boomer's retirement funds? They've had an easy enough road as it is.

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