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A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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I really wish startups would pay attention to this: “The nice thing about revenue is it’s not diluted capital”. Far too often I see people look at their valuations as something like a scorecard for success. And if you can cash out, then I suppose more power to you. But this programmer is tired of the ".com", "web 2.0", "unicorn" bubbles... I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers.

>I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers.

Wish for interest rates to be higher then. That the government policy that's driving this.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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It will be interesting to see if this one takes off more than a similar one that launched about a decade ago now... http://techcrunch.com/2007/11/15/social-networking-platform-... CrowdVine also let people setup custom white-label social networks, though I suppose its founder didn't have as neat of a background story as a Ning founder. It's probably a nice business model, but not a "startup" by PG's standards, since…

I love Hacker News, but my least favourite thing about it all is how we glorify 'startups'. It's honestly just a really weird business model, that seems like it's bound to inspire things like the recent Zenefits scandal, Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation, etc. etc. etc. I dunno... like this story implies, it just seems totally ass-backwards to focus on growth before you're profitable, and pretty unhealthy to…

> Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation

That's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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post #7

I really wish startups would pay attention to this: “The nice thing about revenue is it’s not diluted capital”. Far too often I see people look at their valuations as something like a scorecard for success. And if you can cash out, then I suppose more power to you. But this programmer is tired of the ".com", "web 2.0", "unicorn" bubbles... I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers.

I wish companies would concentrate on providing value to their customers. That's just it, though. "Customers" are just another measure of your value to the people to whom you're actually beholden: investors. As long as you're providing value (perceived or actual) to them, you're winning this game. Ideally, that involves providing value to customers, as well, but it's demonstrably not necessary.

Isn't that way of thinking exactly what led to the dotcom bubble?

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Hacker News, but my least favourite thing about it all is how we glorify 'startups'. It's honestly just a really weird business model, that seems like it's bound to inspire things like the recent Zenefits scandal, Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation, etc. etc. etc. I dunno... like this story implies, it just seems totally ass-backwards to focus on growth before you're profitable, and pretty unhealthy to…

> Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation That's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

Why, you don't think that having a body requiring minimum quality standards and opposing monopolies may be a good thing for consumers and workers?

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

#15

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

No issues here using uBlock with Adblock Warning Removal List, Anti-Adblock Killer, EasyList, Peter Lowe's list, EasyPrivacy and Fanboy's Enhanced Tracking List enabled.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

#16

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

And then if you do disable adblock, it's difficult to read the article because there's a never-ending stream of animated big macs and bank ads and crap pasted beside it, helpfully fixed position so you don't accidentally scroll it off the screen.

I say as someone who makes his living largely from ads, if you have to force someone to view your ads, they're not going to click on them anyway! What's the point? All you've done is potentially driven away a reader.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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post #2

It will be interesting to see if this one takes off more than a similar one that launched about a decade ago now... http://techcrunch.com/2007/11/15/social-networking-platform-... CrowdVine also let people setup custom white-label social networks, though I suppose its founder didn't have as neat of a background story as a Ning founder. It's probably a nice business model, but not a "startup" by PG's standards, since…

I love Hacker News, but my least favourite thing about it all is how we glorify 'startups'. It's honestly just a really weird business model, that seems like it's bound to inspire things like the recent Zenefits scandal, Uber and Airbnb's disregard for regulation, etc. etc. etc. I dunno... like this story implies, it just seems totally ass-backwards to focus on growth before you're profitable, and pretty unhealthy to…

Disclosure: I don't work for a "startup" but have started my own businesses before in the 80's and 90's. I work at a University now in tech.

I may get downvoted for this comment. Oh well.

I think I get PG's label of startup and why it matters to him and to HN followers. But let us not forget that most businesses are not started as a PG like "startup" and never go through the PG "startup" approach. Look around at the restaurants, small manufacturers, service companies like printer repairs and more. These are the companies that drive the economy.

I am tech centric and like many startups and what they seem to offer but I think sometimes things on HN get distorted. I am not anti-startup. In fact I'll be at SXSW and paying attention to the headline grabbers to see what interests me.

I hope MightyBell survives and I wish Gina the best of luck.

Let us not forget the small business persons that struggle everyday to survive and grow just a little, one customer at a time.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

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This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

I was able to read the article with uBlock Origin enabled without a problem. But I agree with you:

>The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

Re: A Unicorn Is the Last Thing This Web 2.0 Survivor Wants

#19

This site first lets me read the article above the fold and then ambushes me with a "disable ad blocking or pay" screen. So I disable Adblocker and get the same message again. Fuck you, I'm not diabling Ghostery and letting you get to my social media information. The anti-adblocking movement is going too far.

And then if you do disable adblock, it's difficult to read the article because there's a never-ending stream of animated big macs and bank ads and crap pasted beside it, helpfully fixed position so you don't accidentally scroll it off the screen. I say as someone who makes his living largely from ads, if you have to force someone to view your ads, they're not going to click on them anyway ! What's the point? All you'…

If they're paid by CPI, do they need you to click on them?
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