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Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Kind of frustrating that there was no mention of the pricing until AFTER users enter all their information to request an "invite". And since I'm not making an account now, I can't delete my submitted information. Should I expect newsletters or spam now?

Yes, you will, unfortunately. And I hate companies that take this insane approach.

Sorry, not trying to be insane. Pricing page went up.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Okay, I watched the promo video, read the homepage, took a quick look at the Terms of Service, and I still have a bunch of questions. Biggest ones: * Is it open source? (My assumption by skimming through the ToS is no, but I still haven't found a definitive answer.) * Does it work on Linux? Or is it web-based maybe? How about Android? * Is it going to be free? If not, what's the price of it?

1. Not open source today 2. It's web based only right now (native apps for later) 3. It's $9/mo base (+$7 to add End-to-end encryption)

Awww. I was really excited until I saw it isn't a native app. My notion of Desktop First is a native & offline app (a big benefit since I often need to manage my task lists when I don't have net access).

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your feedback. The current flow allows me to see who's interested in the product, but may not be interested in paying. If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest.

The truth is that I also felt tricked by this approach. I thought that the service was free until I gave you my email. Not nice, guys. Even being tricked this way, I'm still considering the idea to pay, but $9 might be too much for the use I'd give the product. Not sure... On the other hand, I'd really encourage you to implement the export data feature. I do not commit to any cloud service if I cannot get my data bac…

Pricing page is live now. We were definitely not trying to be tricky. The goal was to see who was interested in the product, but not willing to pay for a subscription. Nevertheless, the feedback was clear that we needed to show pricing. Thanks for your interest. Import/Export data is in the top 3 items of our roadmap. It's in the works.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Not open source today 2. It's web based only right now (native apps for later) 3. It's $9/mo base (+$7 to add End-to-end encryption)

Awww. I was really excited until I saw it isn't a native app. My notion of Desktop First is a native & offline app (a big benefit since I often need to manage my task lists when I don't have net access).

We want the same thing. We love the idea of a native app that works offline. It will happen.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Very nice looking but seems awfully heavy. A dedicated in-app chat feature is the metaphorical kitchen-sink.

It's an updated version of "The Law of Software Envelopment": http://static.userland.com/userLandDiscussArchive/msg018352....

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#67
So, a quick review from my beta access...

Consol is very very slick. It's definitely a UI for "power-users" /s and I would prefer this over my current productivity stack, which is just gMail, gCalendar, gTasks, etc. It's much more streamlined and very well thought out. But I can't afford to be locked into these tools, especially not for 9 bucks a month. Consol really is just a reimplementation of many of google's tools, with tighter integration and less baggage.

I'd be jazzed if my boss bought a license for the whole company, instead of a company google account. But until that happens, Consol will be, IMHO, a very shiny ghetto. Because of the break with traditional tools, it will be hard to build a user base because of a reverse network effect- I can't use Consol effectively until other user's signup as well. IMHO that hurdle can only be cleared by signing up whole teams, not individual users.

I would recommend tighter integration with existing services but that does not seem to be compatible with end-to-end encryption. Perhaps it would be helpful to introduce a migration tool for acclimating new users.

TL;DR A nice tool IFF you whole team migrates at once and you can make a clean break with the past.

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