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Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

Gmo wrote: post #49
Gmo wrote: post #47

I know you say Desktop first (and I like that idea), but do you still plan to do mobile apps in the future ? I think I could definitely be a user of this app as I am searching for a similar solution. Also, you say in your video you can save code, does it include syntax highlighting ? Can you have a shared "library" of stuff with other people ? Edit: Can you pay for instance 1 year in advance and not leave your CC det…

Answering myself, I see that quite a lot of the answers are available in this blog post :) Please, keep updating it like you already did to track what you released ! https://www.consol.io/top-10-missing-features-you-need-in-co...

Will do!

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by e12e »

dbcurtis wrote: post #28
fweespeech wrote: post #7

https://www.consol.io/encryption/ > At this time, Consol supports encryption only of certain content types, viz. notes, code blocks, and images, for users who have subscribed to the E2EE component. The other content types available in Consol are not yet encryptable. > Notably, Consol E2EE does not yet support encryption of the titles of any content types. For example, if you create a Consol note and encrypt it, the t…

> You acknowledge that if you encrypt an item after you create and add content to it, there may be a period of time in which your item’s body content is not encrypted while being stored in our database So.... the data goes across the wire in clear-text, and is encrypted later? Ummm, sorry, no. First off, I'm not interested in anything that stores data that I might want to encrypt "in the cloud". It goes on my own ser…

> And sending data across the wire in the clear and encrypting later

As I understand it, the app uses SSL, so data is always sent over a (presumed) safe transport. I do agree that in order to meaningfully differentiate from the Google/Microsoft/Dropbox/OtherCloudFirm CanHasAllYourDataPlease-model encryption needs to happen 1) on the client 2) by default 3) For everything (including meta-data like filenames 4) should probably not be possible to turn off

Either way, I find it interesting that someone is trying to do at least some things right. It'll never be secure as a hosted solution (presumably they can (be ordered to)) backdoor the client at any time - see Lavabit) -- so I'm not sure I see the point (secure, but not actually secure?). Maybe release it under AGPL and offer a hosted version in order to a) have the client(s) be open and b) offer a solution to those that want to make the trade-off?

It would still be miles better than storing data with a provider that openly says they datamine everything.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by e12e »

I know most people don't care, but your sign-up email is broken: there's no plain-text part -- just some crummy html. I'm not sure if the fault is with sendgrid or your system -- either way it's not that hard to have a proper plaintext/ReST/Markdown part, and a html part... (which also encourages testing across the myriad of email clients and webmail providers to see if you manage to generate html that none of them botch up...).

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

kup0 wrote: post #53

That sure is a helpful pricing page... without pricing information being available upfront, my interest in the product is lost.

Working on a pricing page. That's today's big feedback. You happen to see it for short window before it was ready.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

deftnerd wrote: post #39

Kind of frustrating that there was no mention of the pricing until AFTER users enter all their information to request an "invite". And since I'm not making an account now, I can't delete my submitted information. Should I expect newsletters or spam now?

We put up a pricing page. Send support@consol.io and email and I'll remove all trace of your email address.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by unsignedint »

chevas wrote: post #8
cwilson wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm definitely intrigued. We've used everything under the sun and always end up falling back to Asana (we're a small design agency). Looking forward to trying this out! Edit: You guys might want to be a bit more clear that you're requiring a credit card to signup for beta access, even if you're not charging for 30 days.

Thanks for your feedback. The current flow allows me to see who's interested in the product, but may not be interested in paying. If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest.

If you could offer even a shorter period of trial without needs of credit card information up front, I would have been happier.

I'm not inclined to put in my credit card number up front for the service that I'm not even sure right for me or not...

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

ponytech wrote: post #45
deftnerd wrote: post #39

Kind of frustrating that there was no mention of the pricing until AFTER users enter all their information to request an "invite". And since I'm not making an account now, I can't delete my submitted information. Should I expect newsletters or spam now?

Same feeling here. Plus you can't try the product without giving your credit card number. Sorry, I pass.

Feedback like this was frequent. We decided to put up a pricing page.
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