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Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

dbcurtis wrote: post #28
fweespeech wrote: post #7

https://www.consol.io/encryption/ > At this time, Consol supports encryption only of certain content types, viz. notes, code blocks, and images, for users who have subscribed to the E2EE component. The other content types available in Consol are not yet encryptable. > Notably, Consol E2EE does not yet support encryption of the titles of any content types. For example, if you create a Consol note and encrypt it, the t…

> You acknowledge that if you encrypt an item after you create and add content to it, there may be a period of time in which your item’s body content is not encrypted while being stored in our database So.... the data goes across the wire in clear-text, and is encrypted later? Ummm, sorry, no. First off, I'm not interested in anything that stores data that I might want to encrypt "in the cloud". It goes on my own ser…

This is our initial implementation and we know it's limited. Enable encryption on an item FIRST, before you add content. From then on, any data you add to that item will be encrypted by your browser before transfer. The cloud server is not encrypting the data.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by aaronbasssett »

dbcurtis wrote: post #28
fweespeech wrote: post #7

https://www.consol.io/encryption/ > At this time, Consol supports encryption only of certain content types, viz. notes, code blocks, and images, for users who have subscribed to the E2EE component. The other content types available in Consol are not yet encryptable. > Notably, Consol E2EE does not yet support encryption of the titles of any content types. For example, if you create a Consol note and encrypt it, the t…

> You acknowledge that if you encrypt an item after you create and add content to it, there may be a period of time in which your item’s body content is not encrypted while being stored in our database So.... the data goes across the wire in clear-text, and is encrypted later? Ummm, sorry, no. First off, I'm not interested in anything that stores data that I might want to encrypt "in the cloud". It goes on my own ser…

My reading of it is that it probably has an autosave feature so if I begin typing "This is my super secret password: hunter2" and then click encrypt it may have already sent the content over the wire before I hit the encrypt button.

But that is just my reading of it, maybe the dev can correct me.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#33

Post by tyre »

chevas wrote: post #31
dbcurtis wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You acknowledge that if you encrypt an item after you create and add content to it, there may be a period of time in which your item’s body content is not encrypted while being stored in our database So.... the data goes across the wire in clear-text, and is encrypted later? Ummm, sorry, no. First off, I'm not interested in anything that stores data that I might want to encrypt "in the cloud". It goes on my own ser…

This is our initial implementation and we know it's limited. Enable encryption on an item FIRST, before you add content. From then on, any data you add to that item will be encrypted by your browser before transfer. The cloud server is not encrypting the data.

You may know it is limited but the video literally says "End-to-end encryption." That's more than misleading.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#34

Post by chevas »

tyre wrote: post #33
chevas wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is our initial implementation and we know it's limited. Enable encryption on an item FIRST, before you add content. From then on, any data you add to that item will be encrypted by your browser before transfer. The cloud server is not encrypting the data.

You may know it is limited but the video literally says "End-to-end encryption." That's more than misleading.

Make no mistake, it is end-to-end encryption. The browser encrypts and decrypts the data, not the cloud. The version we're developing will not require the user to have to enable anything beforehand.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by chevas »

cryptoglyph wrote: post #15
tomchuk wrote: post #13

The CC form only accepts a 3-digit CSC which prevents me from signing up with my Amex.

I agree the input should allow 4 digits, but you should still be able to use the three digit code on the back of the AMEX instead.

4 digits are now allowed.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by [deleted] »

zyxley wrote: post #27
chevas wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your feedback. The current flow allows me to see who's interested in the product, but may not be interested in paying. If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest.

> If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest. On the other hand, hiding the price also drives away people (like me) who feel tricked by that practice.

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Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

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Post by [deleted] »

rpercy wrote: post #17
chevas wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your feedback. The current flow allows me to see who's interested in the product, but may not be interested in paying. If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest.

FWIW, I'd be quite interested in paying, but I'm hesitant to provide my credit card to a website with no track-record just to evaluate their product. I'd happily provide my paypal info though.

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Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#38

Post by chevas »

rpercy wrote: post #17
chevas wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your feedback. The current flow allows me to see who's interested in the product, but may not be interested in paying. If the price was front and center from the get-go, I wouldn't have ever known of numerous users who showed interest.

FWIW, I'd be quite interested in paying, but I'm hesitant to provide my credit card to a website with no track-record just to evaluate their product. I'd happily provide my paypal info though.

Good to know regarding Paypal.

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#39

Post by deftnerd »

Kind of frustrating that there was no mention of the pricing until AFTER users enter all their information to request an "invite".

And since I'm not making an account now, I can't delete my submitted information. Should I expect newsletters or spam now?

Re: Show HN: Consol – Desktop First Productivity with End-to-End Encryption

#40

Post by vlokshin »

The video you've done / pointing out the current status on this crowded space -- really nice.

I don't love the onboarding (too many barriers to getting started) but you guys seem like smart guys. I'm sure there's a reason for it and/or you'll figure it out.

Good luck!

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