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Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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I understand that what Kanye did was as wrong as any other pirating. However, as a result of that screenshot that software got a free endorsement from Kanye West. I imagine that guy is going to wake up surprised this morning when he looks at total sales from last night.

"that guy" deadmaus?

I should've said *those people. I didn't know it was a team of two.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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If you look at the YouTube user thumbnail, it's actually producer Mike Dean who's logged in. Kanye and Dean work closely together, and it very well might be a photo of Dean's computer. Speculative and sensationalist reporting by Ars. [1] https://m.youtube.com/user/deanslistproductions

Dean just changed his user photo. It no longer matches.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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People still use Pro Tools? I can't think of a single popular commercial DAW that's worse to use. Pretty much the only people I see use it are all aspiring rappers. I guess it has hip hop cred. Tangentially, I can't think of a single piece of Avid software that isn't a flaming piece of shit. Full disclosure: I used to have to support Avid.

Pro Tools is still pretty much _the_ standard for audio recording, mixing and AV post-production. If you're just producing electronic music, want VSTs, and/or just using a few live tracks, then yeah; you're probably far better off using something else.

Uhh...ever heard of Cubase?

In a professional setting (recording, mixing, mastering label-released albums), I've seen PT used far less than Cubase.

I see it used less than Logic, even.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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People still use Pro Tools? I can't think of a single popular commercial DAW that's worse to use. Pretty much the only people I see use it are all aspiring rappers. I guess it has hip hop cred. Tangentially, I can't think of a single piece of Avid software that isn't a flaming piece of shit. Full disclosure: I used to have to support Avid.

Unfortunately, there are no DAW applications that are really reliable, not buggy, and lightweight. The Open Source attempts are largely laughable, even though JACK represents the most sophisticated audio connection suite/API out there. Pro Tools is shit, I agree, but because of Avid's dominance in the film/TV worlds, Pro Tools is the "professional" choice for audio in support of these industries. I imagine that most…

Yeah, Cubase is pretty awesome.

That's pretty much all I've seen anyone (professional) recording instruments use going on 10 years now.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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I agree that someone is making money using a tool acquired illegally and the creator of the tool needs to be paid. > but it is taking something from somebody Here is where the inaccurate language harms discussion. Nothing is taken from the author. The author still has just as much as they had before the unlawful copying, apart from lost opportunity. They have lost a potential sale. The analogy with theft breaks down…

> They have lost a potential sale. Which isn't a very strong argument, since you also lose a potential sale if someone decides to purchase your competitor's product rather than your own. And hopefully no one would call that "stealing."

Except in this example, there is no competitor making the sale because of a lower price or higher quality product. The choice of product remains the same; the only difference is that the copier pays nothing to ANYONE and is the only person receiving a benefit.

I used to be in the camp in philosophical support of piracy, and I still pirate some of my media. But, I no longer try to excuse the behavior behind a thinly veiled philosophy.

Maybe it's not stealing, but it sure isn't harmless.

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Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

"It's always a sad reminder for us when we see people (who can obviously afford our software) stealing it"

Well, if public domain wasn't stolen by the media/publishing industry I'd feel for you. The entire corporate and videogame world is nothing but a crime syndicate at this point in history, confiscating software and the concept of ownership via bullshit business practices and legal con artistry. Typically business people expand their privileges and take advantage of a gullible and uneducated public.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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In windows, try snipping tool. Comes stock with 7 and up, lets you select a window, or a rectangular area, or even a free form "draw a circle around what you want" mode. And then you can save it or copy and paste it somewhere. So yeah, MS has had this handled for years, just people don't know about it.

Well, I wasn't really looking for solutions myself since I know how to get screenshots and crop/blur/mask them appropriately on different platforms. My comment was more about people not knowing how to do these. On Windows though, I use Greenshot [0] to capture the screen or a window or a specific region of the screen, with options to send the capture to one of several programs directly. Paint.NET [1] is what I normal…

I was just saying that windows does have this stock, it's just not many people know about it. It's extremely handy, cause you can save directly (no going through paint or other hacks) or copy and paste it into Word/Outlook and other stuff, already trimmed to exactly what you need. Average week, I use Snipping Tool like 20~30 times.

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> They have lost a potential sale. Which isn't a very strong argument, since you also lose a potential sale if someone decides to purchase your competitor's product rather than your own. And hopefully no one would call that "stealing."

Except in this example, there is no competitor making the sale because of a lower price or higher quality product. The choice of product remains the same; the only difference is that the copier pays nothing to ANYONE and is the only person receiving a benefit. I used to be in the camp in philosophical support of piracy, and I still pirate some of my media. But, I no longer try to excuse the behavior behind a thinly v…

> Except in this example, there is no competitor making the sale because of a lower price or higher quality product. The choice of product remains the same; the only difference is that the copier pays nothing to ANYONE and is the only person receiving a benefit.

That's true, but the firm's bottom line is the same regardless of whether they lost a sale to piracy or lost a sale to a competitor.

> I used to be in the camp in philosophical support of piracy, and I still pirate some of my media. But, I no longer try to excuse the behavior behind a thinly veiled philosophy.

Then either I'm on the same philosophical road as you but further back, or my philosophical support is stronger than yours was.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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post #59

Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

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