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Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

Hold on. If you're not Steve Duda, then you're Deadmau5?

Deadmau5 isn't super involved anymore. I suppose we are 3 if you count him, but obviously he's been pretty busy with other stuff the last few years

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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post #59

Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

I actually came here expecting this to be a story about production on the road, dongles (iLok), and "look, even the pros don't put up with that garbage".

But it was the opposite.

You're one of the good guys and it sucks that this happened to you.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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> stealing it :( While I empathize with most of your comment, you lost me at the end. Let's not use hyperbolic rhetoric. The crime is copyright infringement (unlawful copying), not stealing (theft), and not plunder and murder on the high seas (piracy). Yes, the sheet music publishers back in the day were able to convince people to use the language of the terrorism of their day (piracy). The hyperbole still harms disc…

While I wanna agree with you, I feel like once you start making money off of someone else's unlawful copied software you're stealing.

Perhaps it's close to stealing if you're making money by directly selling someone else's work, although that still wouldn't be legally true.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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Color it by any technicality you want, but it is taking something from somebody and in common vernacular, that is theft.

I agree that someone is making money using a tool acquired illegally and the creator of the tool needs to be paid. > but it is taking something from somebody Here is where the inaccurate language harms discussion. Nothing is taken from the author. The author still has just as much as they had before the unlawful copying, apart from lost opportunity. They have lost a potential sale. The analogy with theft breaks down…

> They have lost a potential sale.

Which isn't a very strong argument, since you also lose a potential sale if someone decides to purchase your competitor's product rather than your own. And hopefully no one would call that "stealing."

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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post #66

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> stealing it :( While I empathize with most of your comment, you lost me at the end. Let's not use hyperbolic rhetoric. The crime is copyright infringement (unlawful copying), not stealing (theft), and not plunder and murder on the high seas (piracy). Yes, the sheet music publishers back in the day were able to convince people to use the language of the terrorism of their day (piracy). The hyperbole still harms disc…

A kid in his bedroom who hasn't saved up enough allowance to buy Serum yet is unlawfully copying our software. Kayne stole our software

Stop crying, just be grateful for the free exposure you are getting from this. You really think he's trying to get your software for free and not eventually pay for it? He probably has already purchased it and licensed on another computer at home.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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post #59

Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

@ylhert I hope you all jump all over this press - have to imagine this could be netted out as an order of magnitude of goodness for you, Steve, & co with some great timely digital campaign/promo work. Maybe you could even find a way to get Kayne in on it?!

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

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Two things being different doesn't make one of them irrelevant. Consider if you made ... something to sell. Something great, that you know people want. But no one bought it. But they want it, they just waited you out until you gave up and threw it away, and then yoinked it from your trash. It's a violation of social decency, as much as pilfering something from your home -- maybe more so. The mere act of physical appr…

> pilfering excuse me, I'm a representative from the Word Industry Association of America (WIAA). My client actually owns the publishing rights to the word "pilfering", as his 8x-previous ancestors were the first recorded authors to use that word in print. We take our IP very seriously, and it appears you are using a word to which you do not own the license, which is, as you know, theft. We can settle this now for a…

I'd LOL'd.
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