Live data from Hacker News

Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

arstechnica.co.uk

101–110 of 174 posts

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#101
post #61
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not actually true that you can "lose the copyrights to your music" if you use pirated software to produce it, is it? That doesn't sound at all true.

No, that is trademark, and that is only when trademarks are in open consideration for having become "part of the common culture".

That's got nothing to do with trademark one way or the other. The question is whether you can maintain a proprietary interest in something created with tools appropriated form others.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#102
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not know about this until now (and I, sorta, follow EDM). What a dumbass, that is hilarious

Then I highly suggest you to watch the tutorial (I found the re-uploaded version on YouTube[0]). It's ridiculous. Here's my favorite quote: > I don't know what it does, it just makes everything super louder. [...] It just sounds very very way more stronger. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IPxxeb-4gk

Higher-quality version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#103
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not know about this until now (and I, sorta, follow EDM). What a dumbass, that is hilarious

Then I highly suggest you to watch the tutorial (I found the re-uploaded version on YouTube[0]). It's ridiculous. Here's my favorite quote: > I don't know what it does, it just makes everything super louder. [...] It just sounds very very way more stronger. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IPxxeb-4gk

Higher-quality version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#104
post #59

Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

Serum is by far the most fun to use synth I've tried out. Nothing else compares. The UI is just joyful. And the sound; well, it goes without saying that's it's the best sounding synth on the market. Seriously, every time I adjust that wavetable, I smile.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#105

Meh, "people in glass houses...": > @deadmau5 > I used a pirated copy of sylenth on my last 4 albums. #TrueReveal https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/367265601640603648 Steve Aoki was also caught using the above software in a music video with Linkin Park, though he proved that he had bought the software but his assistants installed a pirated version on his road laptop. http://stoneyroads.com/2013/08/steve-aoki-respon…

Both Sylenth1 and Serum have really easy ways of purchasing and installing. This is a legitimate complaint for some companies, but is a terrible excuse to just pirate all software.

There a lot of music software available. You can avoid any companies using iLok and similar distribution methods and still have all your needs covered.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#106
post #82
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> stealing it :( While I empathize with most of your comment, you lost me at the end. Let's not use hyperbolic rhetoric. The crime is copyright infringement (unlawful copying), not stealing (theft), and not plunder and murder on the high seas (piracy). Yes, the sheet music publishers back in the day were able to convince people to use the language of the terrorism of their day (piracy). The hyperbole still harms disc…

A kid in his bedroom who hasn't saved up enough allowance to buy Serum yet is unlawfully copying our software. Kayne stole our software

Thanks, a healthy perspective.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#108

Hate to hijack what I am sure is a mind expanding discussion on software distribution, the law of karma, and modern celebrity. But I am curious about something and was hoping to get an opinion from some of the music production experts on here. Of which there appear to be legion. Which is awesome :) How difficult is it to duplicate Serum-esque wavetable generation using ChucK or CSound? It seems in my uninformed opini…

@JonnieCache covers a lot of points about the oscillators. It's not just that Serum offers a wavetable lookup oscillator, but one that can scan through a wavetable in realtime, "Warp" the sound in various way (including FM, PWM, hard sync, stretching) without aliasing. Then there's also the tools to draw, mathematically generate or import your own wave files, and make wavetables blending between them (from simple crossfading to FFT blending, etc)

There's a ton of filters, I'm sure you could find the basic LP/BP/HP filters, but I know some of the moog-style filters have to be licensed. There's also filter options that aren't typically considered "filters" (flange, allpass with multiple stages, a weird reverb-esque one), and a few filters that are just Duda's own experiments (I think he said the French LP model was just him playing around with the math).

Then you'd also have to reimplement the FX section, which Serum also provides as a standalone plugin that you can place after other audio sources.

Still though, the GUI is a huge benefit of Serum, which makes editing waveforms, envelope curves, LFO shapes, and modulation routing really easy. Almost anything can be routed to almost anything else, as well as several macro controls, which makes it a great live instrument too.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#109
post #57
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most amusing situation to me was when Carnage made a god-awful tutorial for Razer Music, in which he used a pirated version of Sylenth. Once he got called out by the public, he said[1] in a tweet: > “lmaooo wtf why does it matter?” LennarDigital (the company behind Sylenth) decided to reply to his tweet and said that they "are happy to make it a matter". He later on went and accused Razer that it was their laptop…

It's not actually true that you can "lose the copyrights to your music" if you use pirated software to produce it, is it? That doesn't sound at all true.

No, someone is probably confusing this with something that would be related to derivative works.

Unless perhaps the software ships with audio samples that are granted royalty-free usage to anyone who has a legit license to the software package? Extremely unlikely, just trying to imagine why someone would think this.

Re: Kanye West caught using Pirate Bay to download music software

#110
post #59

Xfer records is very small, its just 2 people really (Steve and I). It's nice seeing this get so much attention. We are a very small company (if you can even call it that, I'm not even full time). Every sale is a big deal for Xfer, and piracy definitely hurts us. We don't have the resources to combat it, and we don't put restrictive copy protection on our software because we don't believe in hurting paying customers…

I assume you can tell if he's bought it or someone at his company has? So when he buys it today, you'd be able to tell?
Post reply on HN