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Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…
Firing someone for taking three days off to handle a family emergency is not reasonable. Your opinion of whether the emergency was caused by risky behavior is irrelevant.
That is what she claims. It is her side and we don't know what is Yelp's side of the story.
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#43How can you take a job where you make 2k/month and pay rent of 2.5k + 1.2k daycare. That sounds unsustainable. And a 300% loan...what?
Company culture at Yelp sounds horrible. Tell someone they can come in or get fired over the phone while they are in the ICU is pretty bad. The other stuff mentioned is also bad.
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#44> I am the single mother who closed 17K in month one and 19K in month two. I am the single mother who gets to see her son for a few hours a night, pays $2500 in rent (I make 2k a month so YES, my family has to help and I am so sorry to burden them), pays $1200 a month in daycare (#yelpcares — no subsidy there) I'm not experienced in sales...but how is this a good deal for the author, nevermind tenable? This, plus the…
Yelp: So here's how it's going to play out. We'll start you on $2k/month base, and then after 3 months your target bonuses kick in.
You: OK, what could those be?
Yelp: Well, if you work hard, you could be looking at 25% of sales you book, and we'd be expecting you to be doing $15k-$30k of sales a month, so let's take the lower end of that, and assume an additional $45k a year bringing you up to near $70k/year. Whilst you're here you're gaining great experience at a great company
You: Well, currently my life is utter crap and this seems like a good way to provide for my kid given I can't afford to go to school, so, OK...
Now can't you see how this might play out?
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#45I am not excusing Yelp, but in most countries this is fire-able offense. In EU my friends were in similar situation and they had to go to work. She got half-day off on very short notice..
> in most countries this is fire-able offense. Really? The UK provides employment protections for this kind of incident, and we're not the most eager participant in the EU Social Chapter.
One more time I do not agree with Yelp, and I think its not good what they did.
I live in Czech Republic, it is post-communist country with protective work law, for example employer must give 3 month notice when someone is fired. Law specify long list of reason for taking a leave (children sick, wedding, funeral, blood donation, even looking for new job)...
But her boyfriend is not dependent on her (and is not even relative). It is very different when children are in hospital.
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#46I was going to critique her for taking on an unsustainable living situation. But by the end of that post, just wow. Yelp is a large company with a lot of resources, the way they treated this woman is despicable, especially after a family tragedy like that. It's not like they'll be going out of business if she took some time off to be a human being and care for her family. I don't use Yelp as I've heard many other neg…
Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…
All those points are irrelevant though - they're not part of the story here. The author isn't asking for a pay rise to make up the difference in what she earns compared to what she pays out, or for help looking after her child. She's not looking for any special treatment. All of those things are a distraction from the real point of the post: She wants an employer who's compassionate enough not to fire her for being human. That isn't an unreasonable demand.
You don't need to admire someone to believe that they should be able to take some time off to look after a family member who is ill.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…
Attitudes like this are why trade unions fought for employment laws. I'm absolutely disgusted by the number of people here saying it's her fault that whilst sat in an ICU she was terminated.
It is not the case that people at Yelp find it great joy in firing people. When a person did not turn up for work for three days some HR manager gleefully typed out a termination later and hifived all his co-workers. I don't think that is the case. Hiring someone costs money and so does termination.
Unless I know the Yelp's side of the story I wouldn't buy her version. It is possible that she failed to inform her superiors properly. It is possible that she has a long history of staying absent from work. It is possible that she was terminated for entirely different reasons and her being in a difficult situation is a pure co-incident.
When terminated people get angry. They say all sort of things.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…
Exactly my thoughts. Also I don't understand the "single mom" part. Society does not owe any special treatment to a single mom, not more than any other mom. Single mother is a choice of an independent woman and if she cant afford it she should probably not make it. Instead of being thankful for an employer to have given an opportunity in first place she is ranting against her employer, this is going to make it diffic…
Employers are people to we expect them to behave both ethically and humanely. Society doesn't owe you much but we can afford to give a little extra consideration to those who might be in need of it. You company wont go bankrupt or fall apart because of it.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> in most countries this is fire-able offense. Really? The UK provides employment protections for this kind of incident, and we're not the most eager participant in the EU Social Chapter.
It depends on what job in the UK. In the office IT jobs that most HN readers have, you'd get the time off without questions, and likely a sympathy card from the team too. As a packer on a zero-hours contract in an Amazon shipping warehouse? I don't know for sure but my gut feeling is "hell no, you'd be let go!"
Oh, I agree that the enthusiasm with which the time off is offered will vary, but the legal right is fairly clear: https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants/your-rights
Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me
#50I was going to critique her for taking on an unsustainable living situation. But by the end of that post, just wow. Yelp is a large company with a lot of resources, the way they treated this woman is despicable, especially after a family tragedy like that. It's not like they'll be going out of business if she took some time off to be a human being and care for her family. I don't use Yelp as I've heard many other neg…
Well Yelp didn't vote for her to be a single mom, or for her BF to go on a risky outdoor activity to get injured, or for her to take a loan @ 300% interest (lol wat?). For some reason people seem to think they deserve special treatment for the choices that they made that didn't turn out so well. Yelp is a company. Its relation with her is that of business, service in exchange for currency on agreed upon work conditio…
Taking the 3 days off to care for the bf regardless of whether his injury was his fault or half a day to care for a sick kid are not unreasonable requests.