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Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Yelp didn't make her move, or make her take out high-interest loans, or promise any certain job stability based on performance. It isn't relevant to Yelp that she's a single mother. And on and on and on. So much of what is written here seems to be failure to take responsibility for questionable decisions and irrational expectations.

Companies are run by people and exist because they have value to people. Entitlement or not, it is extremely distressing to see people argue that the employees of companies are not worthy of a little bit of sympathy by their own coworkers.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #7

Yelp didn't make her move, or make her take out high-interest loans, or promise any certain job stability based on performance. It isn't relevant to Yelp that she's a single mother. And on and on and on. So much of what is written here seems to be failure to take responsibility for questionable decisions and irrational expectations.

Isn't that attitude the issue at hand though? Large corporations (this one has north of 3k employees and is pulling in hundreds of millions in revenue) shouldn't be able to treat their employees like replaceable trash instead of human beings to save a few bucks.

Ironically, if I had a family tragedy and asked for leave at the small company I work for that makes very few profits, they'd give me the thumbs up instantly. You'd think the super rich corporations would have an easier time accommodating that, but some of them just refuse if it means a few bucks out of the pocket of John Q Millionaire.

This is precisely why our parents' generation had far more robust unions: they got paid higher wages, and got treated with a lot more dignity over it. Even if unions weren't perfect, they prevent a few millionaires at the top from stomping all over the little people.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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> while being pitched ads for my brand new vocal studio in the South Bay

> took out a loan with 300% interest to move to SF to begin training December 1st at Yelp

> pays $2500 in rent (I make 2k a month so YES, my family has to help and I am so sorry to burden them), pays $1200 a month in daycare

I do not understand.

Why would someone take a loan (at a ridiculous interest rate) to move to a situation with higher rent (let alone cost of living) than salary, especially with kids in tow, especially in a country with at-will employment, especially having just started a new business? What was the upside that would be worth so much stress and risk?

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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Not to distract from the content of the piece, but she took a 300% loan? THREE HUNDRED PERCENT? Could she have gotten a better loan? I'm under the impression that most banks offer loans at more reasonable rates.

Also, how is Yelp able to retain salespeople in the Bay Area if they pay only $2k/month? The salary is clearly under the cost of living.

On topic: please don't let all the particularities of this case distract you. The fundamental issue is that she was fired over a short absence due to a serious family emergency, all while ostensibly performing well at her job. That's not acceptable.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #9

I am not excusing Yelp, but in most countries this is fire-able offense. In EU my friends were in similar situation and they had to go to work. She got half-day off on very short notice..

> in most countries this is fire-able offense.

Really? The UK provides employment protections for this kind of incident, and we're not the most eager participant in the EU Social Chapter.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #12
post #7

Yelp didn't make her move, or make her take out high-interest loans, or promise any certain job stability based on performance. It isn't relevant to Yelp that she's a single mother. And on and on and on. So much of what is written here seems to be failure to take responsibility for questionable decisions and irrational expectations.

Companies are run by people and exist because they have value to people. Entitlement or not, it is extremely distressing to see people argue that the employees of companies are not worthy of a little bit of sympathy by their own coworkers.

I'm sorry if that's how I came across. I'm not arguing against sympathy. I'm arguing against misplaced blame.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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To me, the only difference between this woman's work environment and slavery, seems the lack of chains.

Please clarify for me. You're saying working at Yelp in 2016 is similar to life, e.g., as a rower on a slave ship?

If you think the only slavery is the kind with heavy manual labor, you're minimising the hardships that many slaves have gone through. All slavery is bad. Some is worse.

Re: Yelp Fired a Single Mother Today: Me

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post #8
post #6

To me, the only difference between this woman's work environment and slavery, seems the lack of chains.

Please clarify for me. You're saying working at Yelp in 2016 is similar to life, e.g., as a rower on a slave ship?

I believe the comment is an obvious hyperbole to convey the author's contempt for Yelp. I could be wrong.
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