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Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by pgeorgi »

chadzawistowski wrote: post #26
HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #18

I'm really interested in this as I have a project that would be perfect for it, but I don't see any licensing information available. Anyone know anything about that?

There are two licensing models for Windows 10 IoT Core https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/windows-i... > There is a SKU ‘Windows 10 IoT Core’ available at no royalty cost for all our device makers that enables automatic OS updates via Windows Update when connected to the internet. > In addition, we also have an OEM exclusive SKU ‘Windows 10 IoT Core Pro’ which provides an ability to defer and control…

Note that the EULA related to this edition (at http://ms-iot.github.io/content/eulas/dashboard_eula_en-us.p...) also states in section 2 that "You may not" ... "transfer the software or this agreement to any third party".

(plus some more restrictions of a similar kind)

So this is a development license, not a "ship a product" license. Which is fair, but it's less universal than what your post could be interpreted to mean.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by CalRobert »

Cartwright2 wrote: post #31
CalRobert wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, this is exactly why I got my 14 year old cousin on Ubuntu two weeks ago. So far he loves it.

Why filter your cousin's world view when you could show him all available options and let him make an informed decision himself? Microsoft isn't so "bad" any more with their shift towards open source.

Allow me to clarify

Cousin: "Ugggggg my laptop is garbage since I put on Windows 10 and it's so slooooooow, can you fix it? I can't even play Minecraft!!!!"

Me: "Umm, I haven't actually used Windows in about 5 or 6 years and have no idea what's wrong - I also don't feel like spending my limited time visiting family messing around with your laptop. Here's a USB drive with Ubuntu, give it a shot"

Cousin (next day): "DUDE that's amazing it's so fast! I had to figure out UEFI stuff but I installed Ubuntu and Minecraft is faster than it's ever been before! I have a great dual boot setup going!"

Anyway, I don't feel too bad about it.

Incidentally, UEFI is one of the many reasons MS puts me off.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by khedoros »

ilurkedhere wrote: post #10

Pi user here. Anyone know what the point of Windows 10 IoT is?

The idea is to use the Pi as a device to which IoT-focused applications can be deployed after being developed on a Windows PC. For Windows-focused developers, it can be a gateway to building on an unfamiliar platform without abandoning the comfortable dev environment that they're already proficient with.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by chadzawistowski »

pgeorgi wrote: post #51
chadzawistowski wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two licensing models for Windows 10 IoT Core https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/WindowsForBusiness/windows-i... > There is a SKU ‘Windows 10 IoT Core’ available at no royalty cost for all our device makers that enables automatic OS updates via Windows Update when connected to the internet. > In addition, we also have an OEM exclusive SKU ‘Windows 10 IoT Core Pro’ which provides an ability to defer and control…

Note that the EULA related to this edition (at http://ms-iot.github.io/content/eulas/dashboard_eula_en-us.p... ) also states in section 2 that "You may not" ... "transfer the software or this agreement to any third party". (plus some more restrictions of a similar kind) So this is a development license, not a "ship a product" license. Which is fair, but it's less universal than what your post could be interpreted to…

I think that's just the default EULA. I also found this page where you can apply for commercialization https://www.windowsforiotdevices.com/

Here's an excerpt from the commercial terms of use for the non-Pro SKU:

> Subject to the requirements in Section 3 and restrictions in Section 4 and the other terms and conditions of this Agreement, Microsoft hereby grants to you a royalty-free, worldwide, non-exclusive, personal, non-transferable, non-assignable, limited license to install a Runtime Image into an Embedded System and distribute your Embedded System to End-Users.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by iamcreasy »

MPSimmons wrote: post #48
MoreTuple wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt that powershell is better than bash, unless you're perhaps only counting bash and its builtins and disregarding the whole environment of binaries around it.

Have you spent any time with PowerShell? It's completely amazing. And I say this as a hard core Linux user since 1996.

What makes a shell amazing?

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by icholy »

iamcreasy wrote: post #56
MPSimmons wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you spent any time with PowerShell? It's completely amazing. And I say this as a hard core Linux user since 1996.

What makes a shell amazing?

Better pipes

edit: and better tab completion.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by colejohnson66 »

omaranto wrote: post #37
Someone1234 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And I'm not talking about just Pi development - developing anything on Windows is a huge pain without a Bash prompt and proper coreutils support. You haven't used Windows in a very very long time I take it? Powershell is likely a better shell than Bash and Microsoft freely provides compilers for C/C++/.Net and you can trivially get compilers for most other major languages on the platform. All I am reading from your…

I might add that the C# compiler seems to come pre-installed on windows, nowadays.

It is? I had to install Visual Studio manually the other day in order to compile C#. Or are you talking about `csc.exe'?

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core Support for Raspberry Pi 3

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Post by omaranto »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #59
omaranto wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might add that the C# compiler seems to come pre-installed on windows, nowadays.

It is? I had to install Visual Studio manually the other day in order to compile C#. Or are you talking about `csc.exe'?

I did mean csc.exe. On my machine csc.exe came pre installed but was not on the path.
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