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Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by mst »

doughj3 wrote: post #112
marcusr wrote: post #36

As a C and then a Ruby on Rails programmer, I never thought I would see the day that my main programming language was Javascript. But I find React such an enabling technology that I made the effort to learn Javascript properly, and am glad that I did. React itself is allowing me to write web applications faster and with less bugs, primarily because of the unidirectional information flow, but also because of the way i…

> Even better, I can now create both iOS apps and Android apps at the same time Are you referring to native apps, or do you mean by making a Web app with React you don't need to make native apps?

His mention of the flex layout model implies React Native

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by kruhft »

kaoD wrote: post #88
kruhft wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Writing a 'driver' to integrate my low level UI component library to be usable with React. My major issue was the 'rule' that a parent can't access the 'state' of it's children; this turned a 2 hour job into a 3 day job for me just trying to find a way to get access to this state through all of the lifecycle callbacks while instantiating children at the same time. When asked in #reactjs, they said that if you need ac…

I had the same problem until I saw the light. The problem wasn't React: it was me. You shouldn't merely learn React, but also unidirectional-flow architectures (like Flux, but there are many others, including better ones IMHO). Bidirectional data flow is a pain in the ass and once you understand unidirectional data flow, everything fits much easier. Of course, trying to shoehorn a bidirectional data flow in React is…

Unfortunately I'm not looking for a Religion, I'm just looking to get my job done. Too much structure can be just as bad as not enough when it comes to programming.

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by mst »

plexicle wrote: post #106

I have tried to get in to React all week. The technology is easy, but it's Webpack that I'm having trouble enjoying. All I want is are two simple configs. A dev one with a server/hot loader, and a prod one that concats/minifies. ES2015. That's it. That just doesn't exist out there. It's either no decent production bundler, or it's like 15 files and 900 lines of configuration that seem completely overkill. I don't kno…

Maybe look at the reactuate configs - those don't seem horribly complex and are a nice prepack.

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by forgotusername2 »

vietnameselady1 wrote: post #83

Although I like this a lot, and I think it addresses most individual nuggets of React Sadness in a pretty reasonable way, I am still sad. I am sad because every process rectangle in this chart should also point to a decision diamond that says: "Does it seem that the entire industry has migrated to this stack, whether or not it really makes sense for everyone to? That a feedback loop now influences shops to choose the…

you have a lot of truth in what you say. the funny thing is how this bunch of kiddos / noobs that started doing "websites" and "mobile apps" after iOS and Android thinks they know it all and they are doing the best thing ever when actually they are just implementing shitty designs that were done by other noobs that have never ever animated a button rollover properly or even a "website transition" in their life but call themselves "art director" , "senior bullshit" or something like that

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by plexicle »

danabramov wrote: post #113
plexicle wrote: post #106

I have tried to get in to React all week. The technology is easy, but it's Webpack that I'm having trouble enjoying. All I want is are two simple configs. A dev one with a server/hot loader, and a prod one that concats/minifies. ES2015. That's it. That just doesn't exist out there. It's either no decent production bundler, or it's like 15 files and 900 lines of configuration that seem completely overkill. I don't kno…

Check out https://github.com/ryanflorence/react-project , it’s very new but seems similar to what you are aiming for.

Thanks! I'll take a look tonight.

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by [deleted] »

vietnameselady1 wrote: post #83

Although I like this a lot, and I think it addresses most individual nuggets of React Sadness in a pretty reasonable way, I am still sad. I am sad because every process rectangle in this chart should also point to a decision diamond that says: "Does it seem that the entire industry has migrated to this stack, whether or not it really makes sense for everyone to? That a feedback loop now influences shops to choose the…

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Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by marcusr »

doughj3 wrote: post #112
marcusr wrote: post #36

As a C and then a Ruby on Rails programmer, I never thought I would see the day that my main programming language was Javascript. But I find React such an enabling technology that I made the effort to learn Javascript properly, and am glad that I did. React itself is allowing me to write web applications faster and with less bugs, primarily because of the unidirectional information flow, but also because of the way i…

> Even better, I can now create both iOS apps and Android apps at the same time Are you referring to native apps, or do you mean by making a Web app with React you don't need to make native apps?

I'm referring to native apps on iOS and Android as the code commonality is huge, with just a small number of platform specific components. The biggest surprise though was how much I could port out for a web version (and Electron based Windows and Mac applications)

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by Widdershin »

jim-greer wrote: post #110
sombremesa wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want to point out that there is no mandate to use a framework in JavaScript. While I'm not familiar with React and I agree that it probably helps developers structure their apps, there is no need to use a framework just to have a component/modular architecture. One of my favorite examples of clean modular JS that does not depend on a framework is Mozilla's browserquest: https://github.com/mozilla/BrowserQuest/…

That doesn't work if you're trying to build native mobile apps.

Which is a pity. I would love to see something like Electron for mobile.

Re: React Makes You Sad?

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Post by [deleted] »

et1337 wrote: post #30

This reminds me of that Netflix talk on React [1]. In it, the guy first praises React to the heavens, then spends the rest of the session explaining all the ways they had to disable and work around React to get what they wanted with decent performance. It seemed to me like their use case could have been done with jQuery in a few hundred lines. Maybe I missed something. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g01dGsKbXOk

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