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Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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This is basically the method I use when cooking steaks. Also see this post which discusses the effects of flip intervals on cooking time and evenness of steaks: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1117296 Also, some other simple tips: 1) In general, the more marbling the better. You want lots of veins of fat in the muscle of the cut. Big chunks of fat don't count, and leaner meat won't have as much flavor. 2) Hard wh…

My mum came along for a trip to the market a few weekends ago and had me looking for well aged porterhouse. She told me to look specifically for the yellowing fat as its a sign of age. She grabbed one that looked sickeningly yellow but I can confirm that this was one of the most tender porterhouses I've had.

Yellow fat can indicate a lot of things, most of them not good:

1) The animal was old.

2) Worst case: the animal was losing weight when it died. This will make the meat taste sour (as best I can describe).

3) Best case: it's grass fed and not grain finished. This fat will usually be hard. If you're in the UK (guessing because you said "mum"), that's probably what you got.

4) It's dry aged beef. The outer layer will turn a bit yellow, but otherwise the fat is going to be whatever color it was before aging. Temperature and duration of aging has a lot more to do with how tender the cut is going to be.

Really, it's the spongy feeling stuff you want to avoid. If you're in the US, and it's not marketed as grass fed, it's almost certainly from an old dairy cow or an animal which was sick when it was slaughtered (and losing weight).

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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When the steak in front of me is labelled "USDA Choice", it's choice. I would be surprised to find out that any of the steaks at Whole Foods are "select". I think you're just wrong about this. Yep, you can probably get "prime skirt" at Schaub's. Someone fedex me a Fred Steak, please. I'll send italian beef back in reply.

Interesting, must be a Chicago vs SF Bay thing, definitely no choice meat in Whole Foods here.

S H E N A N I G A N S. I just called Whole Foods SOMA, and they have not one but one hundred and three POUNDS of prime ribeye roast, and prime ribeye steaks cut on display. Yes, the rest is choice.

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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Take the steak out, drain most of the fat out, toss in a minced shallot, turn the heat off, cook the shallot for about a minute, take the pan off heat and throw in any liquor (brandy, cognac, and cheap bourbon all work great), heat to boil, scrape the bottom of the pan, clean, add mustard, mix, add cream to fill the bottom of the pan, mix, reduce. Steak au poivre! Beautiful with the peppered crust.

For anyone trying this at home, please note the "take the pan off heat" part of the instructions... Being able to make a good pan-sauce is a skill that provides one of the best returns on the time investment for a home cook (second only to making your own stocks and glaces.)

Another tip: WRAP THE PAN HANDLE IN SOMETHING HEAT PROOF

In the frenzy of mixing things and moving ingredients around you tend to forget the pan is still at ~500F.

This tip has been brought to you by the scar on my left palm.

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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Seconded. I salted a one-inch-thick steak about an hour ahead of grill time, with a rinse and pat-dry just before grilling. It still tasted too salty. Furthermore, even with 5-10 minutes' rest time after grilling, the steak still lost too much juice upon cutting. This method works: Preheat grill to 500 deg F. Lightly salt and pepper the steak just before grilling. Grill for 4 minutes per side per inch of thickness. R…

You missed a step. Remove, [let rest for 5 minutes], call the guests in...

Understood. But by the time the guests are in, it has probably rested for 5 minutes already. Any more than that, and the steak will have cooled off too much. Hey, that's the way it works for me.

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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Liberally salting your steak is a fine idea, but where is this person finding choice ribeye for $5? Choice isn't "cheap". The $15/lb ribeye at Whole Foods is choice, as is pretty much every other steak you buy outside a specialty store. There's nothing at all wrong with it. This article never gets specific, but I get the impression the author doesn't really know what "prime" means: how well marbled the cut is with fa…

FTA: * And yes, I know what “Choice” and “Prime” means – it’s the marbling. The salting doesn’t affect fat content – I’m using those terms as a figure of speech.

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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I was cooking at a two Michelin star restaurant last year where a large majority of proteins and vegetables were cooked sous vide. Don't underestimate the importance of a good salting, but sous vide will make everything you cook perfect, and consistent. There is a better home option now than the rice cooker + pid timer( which does not circulate water and leads to uneven cooking. http://www.sousvidesupreme.com/ This i…

arazorashinyknife, eh? We run in similar circles (friends with cathy erway?). Is your project food-related?

She's a friend of a friend I believe..we've never met. Yeah we do dinners around the city/country/world. We're doing a series of dinners in late march, sign up for the mailing list on arazorashinyknife.com for a heads up, you should come! You mean the project I mention in my HN profile?

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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I thought of this exact page whilst reading; I'm glad I wasn't the only one. It would be pretty awesome if you documented how you made it work (especially if you do it in such a way that is cheap and easily reproducible).

1. Buy Auber Instruments SV controller @ ~$120. 2. Buy mechanically-switched Black & Decker rice cooker @ $40. 3. Buy Seal-a-Meal vacuum sealer @ $40. 4. Buy two aged rib-eye steaks. 5. Pat steaks dry, salt liberally, pepper. 6. Seal steaks in a single vacuum-sealed bag with 1 tbsp of butter for each steak. 7. Set Auber PID controller for 131f. 8. Put sealed steaks in the bottom of the rice cooker. Fill with water. 9…

Thanks so much for this list. Very excited to try it!

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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1. Buy Auber Instruments SV controller @ ~$120. 2. Buy mechanically-switched Black & Decker rice cooker @ $40. 3. Buy Seal-a-Meal vacuum sealer @ $40. 4. Buy two aged rib-eye steaks. 5. Pat steaks dry, salt liberally, pepper. 6. Seal steaks in a single vacuum-sealed bag with 1 tbsp of butter for each steak. 7. Set Auber PID controller for 131f. 8. Put sealed steaks in the bottom of the rice cooker. Fill with water. 9…

Thanks so much for this list. Very excited to try it!

Wait until you try good-quality short ribs, cooked at 134 for 3 days. Medium-rare short ribs!

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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When the steak in front of me is labelled "USDA Choice", it's choice. I would be surprised to find out that any of the steaks at Whole Foods are "select". I think you're just wrong about this. Yep, you can probably get "prime skirt" at Schaub's. Someone fedex me a Fred Steak, please. I'll send italian beef back in reply.

Mmmm.... fred steak. Ping me via email and let me know where you want it sent :)

Forgot! I'm in San Francisco for the week in 2 weeks. I'll smuggle one out. =)

(I'm good for Chicago food fedexed any time. Alinea hot-potato-cold-potato coming right up!)

Re: Turn $5 steak to $50 steak with salt

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Salting things a while beforehand so the salt penetrates it is a good idea in general. You're supposed to do that to basically any savory food, including chicken, meat, eggs. For big things, like prime rib roasts, you salt it a whole day ahead. So, this guy compared wrongly-salted expensive steak to correctly-but-very-heavily-salted cheap steak. Unfair. Also, in general, expensive steak isn't expensive because it's a…

Filet is more expensive than hanger, and often better. Dry-aged is more expensive than fresh, and always better. Prime is more expensive than choice, and always better. These things all matter. You're right, but I still want to stomp on the confusion about what "prime" means. I heartily endorse Ruhlman's "too stupid to cook" chicken recipe. Buy two chickens when you do it, save the other for leftovers. Whole chicken…

I actually prefer Strip or Sirloin to Filet. Filet is tender all the time, but I think the others have more flavor :)
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