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Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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> But most likely, economic forces will start to dominate our actions in space, as they have always done on Earth. Perhaps most advanced intelligence comes in the form of distributed hive minds, and something like a "civilization" is regarded by most sentients as something akin to a pack of wolves or an uncontrolled mob? Maybe we're the ultimate ethical dilemma: All of the bad qualities of a cancer, but you can't eth…

How could aliens have the ability to destroy us if they didn't have their own technological civilization? Manufacturing spacecraft capable of traveling between the stars in any reasonable amount of time, if possible at all, would be an immense industrial undertaking, the pinnacle of not just scientific knowledge but societal complexity in order to coordinate the resources involved. Any alien race capable of doing the…

Not necessarily.

Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could aliens have the ability to destroy us if they didn't have their own technological civilization? Manufacturing spacecraft capable of traveling between the stars in any reasonable amount of time, if possible at all, would be an immense industrial undertaking, the pinnacle of not just scientific knowledge but societal complexity in order to coordinate the resources involved. Any alien race capable of doing the…

Not necessarily.

Yes necessarily. You can't build an interstellar spaceship without an industrial base, and creating an industrial base is going to have the same effect on the local ecosystems that humanity is being damned for. At best, our alien hive mind is a giant hypocrite.

Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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From what I recall, she keeps on going on about the beauty of the empty landscape, and the possibility of martian life is mentioned less often.

Kim Stanley Robinson is a male author.

That wrote a book with a prominent female character that was concerned with the native Martian environment.

Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily.

Yes necessarily. You can't build an interstellar spaceship without an industrial base, and creating an industrial base is going to have the same effect on the local ecosystems that humanity is being damned for. At best, our alien hive mind is a giant hypocrite.

Not necessarily.

Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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Sci-fi scenario: We find evidence of microbial life from billions of years ago, when Mars was briefly a warm, wet place. Decades hence, a researcher realizes that Mars still has microbial life, but that it has evolved as its environment has, so it's as arid and rarefied as its present atmosphere, wispy and almost not there. Sadly, she realizes that human activity has already doomed it to extinction.

A variant on this features prominently (through one of the main characters/factions) in Kim Stanley Robinson's excellent Red Mars trilogy.

What's the point of preserving a lifeless environment or even one with bacteria and no intelligent animals, over giving humanity a second planet to survive on in case something happens on Earth?

After all, even here on Earth we haven't had such a concern for species that are not us. We drove many to extinction even without it being an existential matter for us.

I think the human sense of morality is largely dependent on how similar something is to us, to know if we are even hurting it. How can you hurt a lifeless environment that's the product of random, and sometimes cataclysmic, events?

Re: Mysterious Martian “Cauliflower” May Be the Latest Hint of Alien Life

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post #22

For those without intuition on Fahrenheit degrees; (-13,113)°F = (-25,45)°C.

You might want to use a dot for those non-Germans over here.

It's a temperature range. You see there four integers.
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