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Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by sixothree »

rb808 wrote: post #82
_lce0 wrote: post #4

Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in "computer things" It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven't even been close --specially with the grampas Really exited about what the future will bring us! 0: http://emulationstation.org/

I must be the only one disappointed with old-school games. I was super excited to set up a retropie, after 20 minutes playing the nostalgia wore off quickly. Anyone else find the same?

Gaming has evolved tremendously and there are a lot of not so great elements to vintage computing. I go back to games I spent days straight playing and find them impossibly awful.

That said there are a lot of absolute gems. To find them search youtube for "best games".

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by cicloid »

notatoad wrote: post #55
chatmasta wrote: post #37

Why does Raspberry Pi not need to conform to the new "standards" of the FCC that require locking down firmware in routers? If it has onboard wifi, and you can turn it into a router... what's the difference between someone installing OpenWRT on a raspi vs. installing OpenWRT on a TPLink? edit: This is a legitimate question, not an opinion.

As far as i'm aware those are all still proposed regulations and not in effect yet.

I think TP-Link is already shipping with a firmware in lockdown

http://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2016-February/00437...

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by mrpippy »

tdicola wrote: post #84
mrpippy wrote: post #13

Given Broadcom's connections to the project, it's almost a surprise they didn't have some kind of Broadcom option for WiFi/BT earlier. Must have stung at Broadcom to be powering the most popular hobbyist ARM Linux board, but almost every one using WiFi powered by Realtek,Ralink,etc.

There is an official Raspberry Pi foundation wifi dongle that uses a Broadcom wifi chip with full support in the kernel. For a time it was the only dongle that worked with Windows 10 IoT on the Pi. Can see it here: https://www.adafruit.com/products/2638

Ah interesting, thanks!

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by increment_i »

rb808 wrote: post #82
_lce0 wrote: post #4

Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in "computer things" It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven't even been close --specially with the grampas Really exited about what the future will bring us! 0: http://emulationstation.org/

I must be the only one disappointed with old-school games. I was super excited to set up a retropie, after 20 minutes playing the nostalgia wore off quickly. Anyone else find the same?

Nostalgia is a powerful emotion. People always remember the truly great games but seldom remember the countless bargain bin cartridges they popped out as a kid after muttering to themselves, "Wow, that sucked."

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by aluhut »

rb808 wrote: post #82
_lce0 wrote: post #4

Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in "computer things" It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven't even been close --specially with the grampas Really exited about what the future will bring us! 0: http://emulationstation.org/

I must be the only one disappointed with old-school games. I was super excited to set up a retropie, after 20 minutes playing the nostalgia wore off quickly. Anyone else find the same?

I have a collection of old C64 games flying around on some of my external drives. Never got to play them. But one day I remembered Deuteros. An old Amiga game. I made it through the whole game back then without knowing English at all. I was so proud back then, I had to pick it up. I couldn't believe it but I played it through all the way again. I really can't say what it was exactly but I guess it was the flashback. The sounds, the graphics and understanding!

I continued with Lure of the Temptress. I only had a buggy version where you couldn't save. I played this with 3 other people. Beginning every Friday. Ending on Sunday... It was fantastic to finally finish it and being able to save.

But if I look at all the games I had back then, most of them are not worth it, but if you seriously look at it: they never were ;)

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by khedoros »

ThatPlayer wrote: post #78
cowmix wrote: post #36

All we need is USB 3 and it would be perfect.

I also want USB slave/device/OTG. I've been running a BeagleBoneBlack which does have it.

As I understand it, the port that USB is implemented on for the Pi machines is actually meant as an OTG port, made to act as a host by the drivers. On models with more than one USB port, there's a hub+ethernet chip. On the single-USB boards, they can actually be configured to act as OTG devices.

The whole situation means that OTG is unavailable on most models, models that have it only get one USB port (so OTG/host is an either-or proposition), and for the multi-USB+ethernet models, performance over those interfaces is worse than you'd expect (if I remember, BBB gets several times the transfer over USB and network, all at lower CPU usage, right?)

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by newman314 »

simmons wrote: post #44

I'm a little disappointed that (from a brief glance at the documents) it doesn't appear to support the 5 Ghz Wi-Fi band. I wonder if it's a power issue, or just limited space on the PCB. The 2.4 Ghz band gets kind of crowded in dense urban environments.

That's a bummer. Other than the Nest, the Pi is the only 2.4ghz device left in the house.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by simcop2387 »

mrbill wrote: post #79

Are the BTLE and WiFi the only changes? Still same CPU and RAM as the 2?

Since this is the first showings of it, we don't know yet. I haven't read the data yet but it'll likely cover only the newly added RF stuff, and the part 15 compliance for the FCC. We'll have to wait to hear from the pi foundation on the rest of the specs.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by mciancia »

Snorlack wrote: post #54
OedipusRex wrote: post #9

The onboard Wifi and Bluetooth really makes the barrier of entry for IoT $5 (assuming the stick with the $5 mark)

It's already $4 with the new ESP8266-EX from WeMos! Full WiFi stack, 11x GPIO, Analog in, SPI, I2C, 80/160Mhz, 4MB Flash, power/flashing over USB, supported by the Arduino IDE, or just use the NodeMCU Lua firmware with modules for most sensors, displays, MQTT etc. I'm having a blast with them right now. (Edit: http://www.wemos.cc/wiki/doku.php?id=en:d1_mini )

WTF is WeMos? ESP8266 module itself costs below $2

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Post by rasz_pl »

azdle wrote: post #77
rasz_pl wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this is the antenna. I cant believe it took them that long, Broadcom is famous for their BT/Wifi chips, buildin wifi was a no brainer, and cost shouldnt be an issue when you have great connections inside the company.

Are you sure that's the antenna? It looks more like it'd be a balun. It even has what looks like a feed line going to the keepout that's right next to it. I feel like the one in the picture is missing the actual antenna.

balun (white ceramic part with brown rectangle marking) appears to be on the other side between the chip and via to the antenna

http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/2-45ghz-balun/52... or similar

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