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Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any more info on this new "standard" from the FCC? If true, that…sucks.

I believe he or she is thinking of the FCC proposal regarding software-defined radios. It was widely (and incorrectly) reported as requiring all routers to have locked firmware, but that's not really the case, and if the proposal were to go forward there are a variety of ways that the SDR could be locked down while allowing firmware updates in general. It's not clear that the FCC is even going to go forward with it,…

TPLink has already started locking down its firmware in response to FCC:

http://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2016-February/00437...

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in "computer things" It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven't even been close --specially with the grampas Really exited about what the future will bring us! 0: http://emulationstation.org/

I don't get how ROMs for the old systems continue to be so easily available. I'm really glad they are, but how have all of the ROM hosting sites note been DMCA takedown'd into oblivion?

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

#63

Comparing the photos to my Pi 2, it doesn't seem very different. There's an extra IC near the microsd card, a connector beneath the HDMI port, and a few other small changes. But nothing that looks like an antenna. Any idea where that might be? Edit: as lovelearning pointed out, there is a small ceramic-looking piece in the upper-left of the top side, near the GPIO pins and LVDS display connector. That might be it.

According to FCC report they are using a chip antenna.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

#64
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The Raspberry Pi website says they're unlikely to have a new version in the next few years. Do they have FCC now? Maybe they just want to add on the radio modules. From the FAQ: > there are no immediate plans to release any more new models. A further new model may be released in 2-3 years, but this is not a firm schedule. https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#generalFuture

just like they had no plans for rpi 2 until the day it was released :)

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

#65
post #4

Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in "computer things" It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven't even been close --specially with the grampas Really exited about what the future will bring us! 0: http://emulationstation.org/

I don't get how ROMs for the old systems continue to be so easily available. I'm really glad they are, but how have all of the ROM hosting sites note been DMCA takedown'd into oblivion?

There's no money in it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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I'll be picking one up. Onboard WiFi is a big deal.

I'm still waiting for a Zero. A Zero with onboard Wifi would be brilliant: really small, needs little power, and you don't need to hook it up to anything but the power supply.

Get a Chip!

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe he or she is thinking of the FCC proposal regarding software-defined radios. It was widely (and incorrectly) reported as requiring all routers to have locked firmware, but that's not really the case, and if the proposal were to go forward there are a variety of ways that the SDR could be locked down while allowing firmware updates in general. It's not clear that the FCC is even going to go forward with it,…

TPLink has already started locking down its firmware in response to FCC: http://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2016-February/00437...

Eh, I'm skeptical that a chat customer-service flunky really has deep insight into high level regulatory-compliance decisions -- especially surrounding regulations that have only been floated as a proposal and which don't, yet, even exist (edit: the guidance seems to have moved forward, but only after amendments making it clear that the FCC specifically wasn't banning open source firmware)

TPLink has always been a shit company when it came to firmware, and routers with locked firmware predate by decades this FCC proposal. I'm not convinced there's a cause-and-effect relationship here.

Edit: Anyway, from the horse's mouth back in Nov 2015 after the comment period closed on the proposal:

"One immediate outcome of this ongoing dialogue is a step we’ve taken to clarify our guidance on rules the Commission adopted last year in the U-NII proceeding. Our original lab guidance document released pursuant to that Order asked manufacturers to explain “how [its] device is protected from ‘flashing’ and the installation of third-party firmware such as DD-WRT”. This particular question prompted a fair bit of confusion – were we mandating wholesale blocking of Open Source firmware modifications?

We were not, but we agree that the guidance we provide to manufacturers must be crystal-clear to avoid confusion. So, today we released a revision to that guidance to clarify that our instructions were narrowly-focused on modifications that would take a device out of compliance. The revised guidance now more accurately reflects our intent in both the U-NII rules as well as our current rulemaking, and we hope it serves as a guidepost for the rules as we move from proposal to adoption."

If TPLink really is locking out firmware "because of the FCC", they've simply misinterpreted things.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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I'll be picking one up. Onboard WiFi is a big deal.

I'm still waiting for a Zero. A Zero with onboard Wifi would be brilliant: really small, needs little power, and you don't need to hook it up to anything but the power supply.

You're going to be waiting a long time.
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