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Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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> The agricultural system, for which pollinators play a key role, creates millions of jobs worldwide.

This sentence feels weird and misplaced. Compared with the agricultural system's main task – keeping us from starving to death – its role as a job provider seems utterly insignificant.

Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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The cynic in me wonders if we're simply doomed to having these useful species die off at this point. We've killed off a great deal of nature already, and it seems the major voting populations in our democracies are insulated enough in concrete cities and modern conveniences to not really care enough to force politicians to address these issues. And also, there's not much money in it compared to other courses of action.

Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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> The agricultural system, for which pollinators play a key role, creates millions of jobs worldwide. This sentence feels weird and misplaced. Compared with the agricultural system's main task – keeping us from starving to death – its role as a job provider seems utterly insignificant.

From http://data.worldbank.org/topic/agriculture-and-rural-develo... : For the 70 percent of the world's poor who live in rural areas, agriculture is the main source of income and employment.

Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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The cynic in me wonders if we're simply doomed to having these useful species die off at this point. We've killed off a great deal of nature already, and it seems the major voting populations in our democracies are insulated enough in concrete cities and modern conveniences to not really care enough to force politicians to address these issues. And also, there's not much money in it compared to other courses of actio…

There's a lot of money in agriculture. Increased demand of food due to exponential growth of the population. Increased demand for luxurious food like meat due to exponential economic growth of the population.

Long term, it is the most economically sustainable business from the perspective of the business owner.

Long term, it is the largest polluter of all, and is unsustainable in its core. The reason why pollinating species are disappearing is the unsustainable nature of animal husbandry and agriculture. To meet the demand you have to pesticide-the-crap out of your grain fields, and there's a lot of grain fields for your animals. Not much for humans.

Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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The cynic in me wonders if we're simply doomed to having these useful species die off at this point. We've killed off a great deal of nature already, and it seems the major voting populations in our democracies are insulated enough in concrete cities and modern conveniences to not really care enough to force politicians to address these issues. And also, there's not much money in it compared to other courses of actio…

Most of the western nations are nicely isolated from the consequences of climate and environmental changes. If you look at the map of the region that are expected to suffer from the consequences of Global Warming, you will notice that the western world, again, is a lot safer.

I used to be a lot more cynic before, but in practice, the level of awareness and empathy for climate and environmental issues is surprisingly high compared to the actual effect it has on us. The pressure of green agenda is increasing all over the western world, and I'm sure that in 20 years we will look back to those days with discuss.

The only problem is if that's going to be too late or not.

Re: Decline of Species That Pollinate Poses a Threat to Global Food Supply

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> The agricultural system, for which pollinators play a key role, creates millions of jobs worldwide. This sentence feels weird and misplaced. Compared with the agricultural system's main task – keeping us from starving to death – its role as a job provider seems utterly insignificant.

> Compared with the agricultural system's main task – keeping us from starving to death

the agricultural system's main task is to make money & control others through the market.

if it's main goal was to feed the world, we would have succeeded long ago. just look at all of the food thrown away (more than enough to feed those who don't have food) & subsidies to grow ethanol, instead of food.

the best agricultural model is one that encourages autonomy. that means the community is self-reliant to grow it's own food, instead of depending on another entity to supply food.

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